Giuliani, "Strong Belief in the Leader"

Post #171,822 by Ashton 8/30/04 11:12:34 PM Reply	Giuliani, "Strong Belief in the Leader" .. who has "strong beliefs" - is the essential thing. [/short form recap of Republican Convention launch] Preceded by Amazing Grace for the 9/11 victims, sung by the NY fireman/tenor. It's a Tent Revival. All preceded by a now thoroughly chastened, converted and evangelical John McCain - asserting the Leadership Qualities of The Leader. Clearly Leadership is Leading these followers-of-Leaders towards --> Leading. Presumably for the Sheer Joy of Having a Leader. A Strong, Unswerving Leader Who Leads and will remain Undeterred from Leading other than Where He Leads. Cannot wait for Part 2: --> 'Destinations', perhaps?
Post #171,829 by deSitter 8/30/04 11:25:24 PM Reply	Fuehrer befiehl, wir folgen! -drl
Post #171,869 by jb4 8/31/04 9:27:12 AM Reply	Can't be... It's a Tent Revival. Can't be. The Repos closed their "Big Tent" decades ago! jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #171,948 by danreck 8/31/04 12:09:56 PM Reply	Lederhosen? Ah, mon frere, ([link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=144321\|http://z.iwethey.org...?contentid=144321]) it is time for caca phony, Act II, Scene I. The AC's enter and are entertained, oblivious to the screaming outside of those "stupid young jerks". Mike Moore is there, in person, to be vilified... Scripted flawlessly, even in my wildest cynical dreams ([link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=144648\|http://z.iwethey.org...?contentid=144648]) did I suspect that they would have a freed slave singing Agrazing Mace (medieval version) to the highball and martini delegates. It was over the top, but predictable (from the same post linked above) I wax nostalgic, I did see the Bush add. It is all well and good that SOMEONE remind "we the fucking people" that it ain't time for bness as usual with our God epluribus. If it takes them showing footage of the folks diving from the top floors all the way to the ground to make them get out of their narcisistic self-denial of who they are, what happened on 9/11, and what ain't over yet, I hope someone shows that too. Hey, Kerry, let's just bury our collective fucking heads back on our old hedonistic lifestyles "you better off now" mindless rhetoric. Shit, after a few years, they'll put new buildings up and we'll be right back to trying to one up eachother on the nicest UAV - and forget about all those poor people who died in a couple of office buildings in New York City. After all, it is the economy, stupid... Didn't we put a plaque up somewhere? The ads are only painful to those who are in denial of what happened and why. Feeling pretty vindicated at this point about my predictive powers (melancholy about the consequences)... Yessir. But I really do believe that after 42 years on the planet, I'm starting to see and be able to predict the pattern. </pattingselfonmyownbaldhead> So anyhow, how's it going? Did I mention... ah, you know. Leaders lead by leadership, If I am right in my own mind, I am never wrong... Great googlymoogly, Danno
Post #172,077 by Ashton 8/31/04 9:29:19 PM Reply	Pshaw___It's just your middle-age crisis crisising back to comforting Patriotic Slogans of My Weird Gramma's day. And as to vaunted Leadership as a Chimera-Stone - That all depends on WHOM you are leading: the MBAs? the mall-rats? the non-voting majority inhabiting Ennui-City? You can appeal to mindless Valuez of the 20-sec attention span clan or you can attempt to elicit some small spark of recognition (from the distant past, maybe even unto Adlai) .. of just What a Colossal Fuck-Up looks like on Tee Vee, after his-Roveowitz decides to invade a place for all the erroneous reasons, arrives with no fucking Plan and - [fill in all the detailed fuck-ups from.. expecting flag-waving Yassuh-boss folk as welcoming committee, looting and further shooting-up of the stuff the US taxpayers have to rebuild, on down to today]. Vindicated, eh? Is that the same root as vindictive or Invincible. OK maybe after this career-crisis abates (lookin over the top to the downward descent into the abyss, bunky?), and you get over the pop fantasy that, with enough new nukes our Military Might shall continue that PNAC master plan -- just remember, Your Boys' Plan next, for [link\|http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/08/25/bush_second_term/\| Soc Sec], then recall the faces of Roveowitz at all, 'in repose' ..along with the perpetual sneer of our Halliburton Veep. (That should prove a comfort, when the vingar in bloodstream finally gets processed by the kidneys. Ixnay on the John Wayne reruns; you obv can't deal well with heroic symbology in HDTV resolution.) Other than the Disneyland stuff though, it's a hell of a soap opera, except for some of the rilly Painful slogans that don't work even in fairy tales. But after about 20 min of the syrupy maudlin, I just turn it all off and commune with Siva (or sometimes.. Ganesha; you haven't heard a real SNORT til you've heard one through G's trunk..) Keep the Faith, Baby - things will appear differently as you ride that slope on down towards disillusionment [But first you must fight! reillusionment, y'know?]. Oh: While waiting for Awareness (after forgetting why you liked Adlai), I recommend seeking a copy of the ~~'tone poem' [link\|http://www.americansymphony.org/dialogues_extensions/2002_03season/2003_2_9/botstein2_9.cfm\| Manfred] based on a late night Lord Byron opus. Doubt you can find the stirring rendition I have, by Sir Thomas B, Royal Phil, "with Actors, Soloists, Chorus and Orchestra"; George Rylands as Manfred - on Columbia M2L 245 (Mono LP) .. This was the first complete recording, and was found for me by a remarkable One, years ago. But then, maybe the Jesuits have a copy - they collect Everything. From the album notes: "The collaboration of Byron and Schumann in Manfred, though they worked thirty years apart, is a true meeting of like minds which is all the more striking in the abrupt dissimilarity of their public personalities. Manfred is Byron as a youth; there is no doubt about that. Schumann saw in Byron's hero a reflection of certain aspects of his own nature, but Schumann as a man was a far more fulfilled and complete human being than Manfred or Byron, and this despite the composer's incipient madness at the time of this composition" ... "Goethe later went on record as admiring Manfred and declared that, 'Hamlet's soliloquy appears improved on here'". Kinda doubt it's been saved onto CD, given marketing priorities of the new MBA-class and the God of Efficiency. Every 40-something needs to hear this entire, undistracted by football plays with the sound turned down - at least Once. IMmatchlessO. It will be hard to stick you into a boring Groupthink slot, because you have so little excuse for drinking the Koolaid of Demagoguery 101-Remedial. The Real Adlai is Not the Adlai You See er, cha cha cha As Tom Lehrer reminds, We will all go together when we go --> {but likely without the live trumpet fanfare}
Post #172,234 by danreck 9/1/04 3:49:08 PM Reply	I'm really laughing out loud. LOL does no justice... Ash, Thank you, you've made my day. I guess I am suffering from "old poop" syndrome. You asked a good question in your screed, "Vindicated, eh? Is that the same root as vindictive or Invincible." To answer your question, it's the root between my legs... :-0 May your days be merry and bright and may all your Xmasii be right. Keep your sense of humor. Just a few thoughts, Danno "Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans" J. Lennon
Post #172,239 by danreck 9/1/04 4:09:01 PM Reply	P.S. I did check the father's/brother's cache. Found listing -sheet music - for Manfred (was not actually at the location in library)... You've piqued my curiousity however. Google seems to be at same loss. Interesting side note found here: [link\|http://www.leonardbernstein.com/studio/element2.asp?FeatID=2&AssetID=20\|http://www.leonardbe...atID=2&AssetID=20] as he felt it was a major enough piece to use in his debut. Damn, another thing I must do... so little time. Ad hoc, ad lock and quid pro quo\ufffdso little time, so much to know! Just a few thoughts, Danno Eminent physicist, polyglove clatacyst, prizewinning botanist, hardwriting satirist, talented pianist, good dentist, too! A boob for all seasons.
Post #172,252 by jb4 9/1/04 4:56:27 PM Reply	Are you....bluish? You don't look bluish.... jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT

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