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Post #17,099 by pwhysall 11/7/01 7:30:01 AM Reply	Reasons why Turkey is currently not in the EU... ...and is unlikely to BE in the EU. 1. The death penalty. No matter what Americans think, we don't do death penalties in the EU. 2. Oppression of political opposition. We also don't think it's cricket to imprison, torture and murder the opposition party. 3. Violent oppression of ethnic minorities. The Kurds. 4. More-or-less systemic corruption throughout the political system and police force. Turkey has been asked to address these matters on numerous occasions (it pops up on the BBC news every now and again; they keep banging on the door) but things don't seem to change. [link\|http://newssearch.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/results.pl?tab=news&scope=news&q=turkey+human+rights&x=0&y=0\|BBC News stories on Turkey and human rights] Peter EuroShill For Hire [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #17,100 by boxley 11/7/01 8:38:09 AM Reply	3.violent oppression of minorities BY THE GOVERNMENT or the UK would be kicked out. thanx, bill tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #17,105 by gtall 11/7/01 8:54:57 AM Reply	So? Fix the problems and let'em in. Gerard Allwein
Post #17,289 by CRConrad 11/8/01 5:18:13 AM Reply	Why should we "fix" their "problems", when you... ...weren't going to make, IIRC, Indonesia a State because of their various "problems"? Why don't you just "fix the[ir] problems and let'em in"? Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
Post #17,292 by gtall 11/8/01 6:38:06 AM Reply	Re: Why should we "fix" their "problems", when you... I wasn't referring only to Turkey's problems. Gerard Allwein
Post #17,792 by CRConrad 11/11/01 7:04:42 PM Reply	Is that supposed to be a logical counter to my argument? You were, AFAICR, referring only to Indonesia's problems, earlier. Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything

Annex Afghanistan? - (orion) - (15) - Nov. 6, 2001, 06:23:14 PM EST

Bad idea - (gtall) - (9) - Nov. 6, 2001, 06:35:04 PM EST

Hell, it's no worse than putting Turkey in the EU... -NT - (CRConrad) - (8) - Nov. 7, 2001, 04:18:37 AM EST

Re: Hell, it's no worse than putting Turkey in the EU... - (gtall) - (7) - Nov. 7, 2001, 07:03:12 AM EST

Reasons why Turkey is currently not in the EU... - (pwhysall) - (5) - Nov. 7, 2001, 07:30:01 AM EST

3.violent oppression of minorities BY THE GOVERNMENT - (boxley) - Nov. 7, 2001, 08:38:09 AM EST

So? Fix the problems and let'em in. -NT - (gtall) - (3) - Nov. 7, 2001, 08:54:57 AM EST

Why should *we* "fix" *their* "problems", when *you*... - (CRConrad) - (2) - Nov. 8, 2001, 05:18:13 AM EST

Re: Why should *we* "fix" *their* "problems", when *you*... - (gtall) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2001, 06:38:06 AM EST

Is that supposed to be a logical counter to my argument? - (CRConrad) - Nov. 11, 2001, 07:04:42 PM EST

Worse, other way around: Turkey oppresses the Kurds. -NT - (CRConrad) - Nov. 8, 2001, 05:17:47 AM EST

Can't do that... - (bepatient) - Nov. 7, 2001, 09:20:50 AM EST

Please NO! We have enough people on welfare now.... - (hnick) - Nov. 7, 2001, 10:10:23 AM EST

Impractical - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Nov. 8, 2001, 11:25:34 AM EST

Aside from goat head football - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2001, 12:00:33 PM EST

Well, we shouldn't annex that either. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - Nov. 8, 2001, 06:39:27 PM EST

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