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New OK, so what about Idi Amin? Pol Pot? Etc. etc.?
These people made Saddam looke like a rank amateur. Yet we didn't avenge their families, now did we?

The world will always have megalomaniacal despots who are willing to abuse their own people. (Shit, look at this country as an example!) But that doesn't mean we have the authority or responsibility to remove said despots from power (except, of course, in this country...where we not only have authority, but responsibility, to do exactly that in some 2000 or so hours).
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Learn how the system works
if a President does something wrong, there is an impeachment process. If what Bush did was wrong, an impeachment process would have been started. They did, after all, start one on Clinton, so why not Bush as well?

Thus we see the big large gaping hole in your argument that you can pass a Death Star through. Why is there no impeachment process or even paperwork to at least look into it? With all you whiners and moaners claiming the war was not justified, where is the impeachment procedings? With charges this serious, there ought to be one.

Yet face facts, there is no impeachment procedings. So are all these people upset at Bush, all talk, and no action? Where is the justice?

They and you, get hit with a reality check. Could it be that they and you are wrong about the Iraq War being unjustified? Oh perish the thought, how can a majority of Americans be wrong?

Thus I issue a challenge to you, if you have not yet registered to vote, do so. Choose who you want to be president in November 2004, it doesn't matter to me who you vote for as long as you do vote. Exercise your right, make the right decsion, and do something about it, or STFU!



"When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in confederacy against him." - Jonathan Swift




[link|http://www.xormad.com:4096/district268|I am from District 268].
New Now THAT's Precious! (new thread)
Created as new thread #168569 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=168569|Now THAT's Precious!]
New ** SHUN **
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New That was stupid when you said it before
And it is still stupid.

For your reference, you made this asinine comment about impeachment back at [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=164820|http://z.iwethey.org...?contentid=164820]. My response then explaining why it is stupid is still relevant.

Yours,
Ben
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
New Your response was invalid back then
and still is invalid. You force me to repeat myself to prove a point. Apparently you've missed it. Your response is illrelevant, not all Republicans support the war in Iraq, and thus you have committed a fallacy. One that you continue to repeat for a second time.



"When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in confederacy against him." - Jonathan Swift




[link|http://www.xormad.com:4096/district268|I am from District 268].
New A Masterpiece of purest digital-'think'__!!__For posterity.
This can't be meds or lack of same: It's *You*
Naked.

Bad Presidents are impeached.
If a President isn't impeached: Good President.


For the genuine silly person, travel (or reading) merely enables them to misunderstand further and then .. abound in absurdities.

Imagining that reiterating doggerel in pseudo-intellectual form .. constitutes something akin to 'proof' of anything but brain dysfuction: probably puts you now beyond further pharm-chem (or most other..) 'help' for your ongoing afflictions.

It's.. simply.. *You* !!
to a fare-thee-well.
New And this is pointless
Your logic is as bad as your spelling.

If you're unable to comprehend that current political reality is such that it is virtually impossible that a Republican President would be impeached, then continuing to point out this fact is pointless.

I'll make my last attempt before exiting this thread.

For an impeachment movement to get off the ground it needs the prospect of commanding majorities in both the House and the Senate. Currently Republicans have those majorities and good enough party organizations to consistently win most votes that they want. That would obviously include the numbers to squelch any criticism of the President.

The existence of Republicans who dislike Bush is irrelevant (feel free to learn how to spell that). This is a numbers game. And right now Bush's organization has the numbers on their side.

If you don't care to understand this, I don't care. Everyone else here does understand this point. I feel no need to further defend what is obvious and won't bother responding again to you in this thread.

Sincerely,
Ben
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
New None of them had a
13 year history of violating UN resolutions and/or invading sovereign neighboring states and/or persuing WoMD (even if in the end they ended up being gone...doubting they were a goal is ignoring reality), et al.

Now, if you add Kim Jong-il to that list it becomes problematic.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New None of them had much [oil] either
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Riiight.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New or had been mean to Dad?
     Chicago "Oklahoma City" type plot thwarted! - (Nightowl) - (84)
         Re: Chicago "Oklahoma City" type plot thwarted! - (deSitter) - (83)
             Virgin . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
             Sorry, must disagree - (Nightowl) - (81)
                 so Bush is a terrorist? -NT - (boxley) - (78)
                     Yep. Unprovoked attacks on another nation. -NT - (jbrabeck) - (47)
                         Sure why not? - (orion) - (46)
                             3 million? - (pwhysall) - (40)
                                 From Iraqi immigrants - (orion) - (39)
                                     That's close to 15% of the population -NT - (deSitter)
                                     No such thing as an unbiased source, Norman. - (pwhysall) - (37)
                                         Even if the numbers are wrong - (orion) - (36)
                                             Yes we should - (lincoln) - (5)
                                                 I think the problem here - (Nightowl) - (4)
                                                     So N. Korea is justified in attacking the USA? - (lincoln) - (3)
                                                         we have been at war with them since 1950's - (boxley) - (2)
                                                             Technically that was not a war on our side -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                                 OTOH, isn't signing a truce=retroactively declaring war? :-) -NT - (CRConrad)
                                             The problem with that reasoning... - (pwhysall) - (17)
                                                 I agree, but the USA is remarkably incompetent about it - (ben_tilly)
                                                 Zimbabwe cannot be invaded by us, the UK screwed that pooch - (boxley)
                                                 Very well so - (orion) - (14)
                                                     Wrong Answer - (jbrabeck) - (12)
                                                         Right answer - (orion) - (11)
                                                             Lifted 700 Club slogans do not a Statesman make. - (Ashton) - (2)
                                                                 Yet you error again - (orion) - (1)
                                                                     So why, then,... - (jb4)
                                                             Responsibility? - (inthane-chan) - (5)
                                                                 Yeah sure - (orion) - (4)
                                                                     Norm, you wouldn't last an hour. - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                                                                         All I know about war I learned in comic books... -NT - (admin)
                                                                     And that makes Iraq different from Saudi Arabia how? - (inthane-chan)
                                                                     So volunteer already. - (Silverlock)
                                                             I've forgotten more about war than you've ever known. - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                                                                 Did you really get a beer ration? :) -NT - (deSitter)
                                                     What is the sound of a clue-by-4 hitting Norm's brain? - (jb4)
                                             OK, so what about Idi Amin? Pol Pot? Etc. etc.? - (jb4) - (11)
                                                 Learn how the system works - (orion) - (6)
                                                     Now THAT's Precious! (new thread) - (Ashton)
                                                     ** SHUN ** -NT - (jb4)
                                                     That was stupid when you said it before - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                                         Your response was invalid back then - (orion) - (2)
                                                             A Masterpiece of purest digital-'think'__!!__For posterity. - (Ashton)
                                                             And this is pointless - (ben_tilly)
                                                 None of them had a - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                     None of them had much [oil] either -NT - (jb4) - (2)
                                                         Riiight. -NT - (bepatient)
                                                         or had been mean to Dad? -NT - (Ashton)
                             A war fought on false pretenses ... - (jb4) - (4)
                                 It's like saying that a rape is justified... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                     OT on rape seattle and children (new thread) - (boxley)
                                 The right war for the wrong reasons - (orion) - (1)
                                     Are you THAT fucking stoopud, Norm! (new thread) - (jb4)
                     Well... - (Nightowl) - (29)
                         In no way - (boxley) - (28)
                             Let me clarify - (Nightowl) - (26)
                                 well that makes you a terrorist as well - (boxley) - (25)
                                     That's why opinion - (Nightowl)
                                     What does that make Kerry? - (orion) - (22)
                                         Re: What does that make Kerry? - (xtensive) - (21)
                                             This is the same as the suicide bomers - (orion) - (20)
                                                 Loaded question, with a bad answer - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                                                     Well, I rather relish a French Liberation force! - (jb4)
                                                 Yes, it seems that you are fools - (Ashton) - (17)
                                                     Sorry, already planning to vote - (Nightowl) - (2)
                                                         OK, you're excused. - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                             Glad to clear it up. - (Nightowl)
                                                     I will still vote - (orion) - (13)
                                                         When brooks babble.. it's music. When you babble, it snot -NT - (Ashton)
                                                         Been listening to Rush again, I see... - (jb4) - (11)
                                                             I don't listen to Rush - (orion) - (10)
                                                                 No one here hates you, Norm - (rcareaga) - (2)
                                                                     Ah but you do - (orion) - (1)
                                                                         Hated? - (Silverlock)
                                                                 "Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner" - (jb4) - (6)
                                                                     Only if you believe in it - (orion) - (5)
                                                                         What I believe doesn't mean sh*t to a tree - (jb4) - (4)
                                                                             Why, that's "Eskimo Blue Day"! - (rcareaga) - (3)
                                                                                 what! no blue cheer? King Crimson? - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                     Just checked with Ernie - (rcareaga)
                                                                                 Re: Why, that's "Eskimo Blue Day"! - (jb4)
                                     Kerry and Bush are both terrorists - (Arkadiy)
                             No more quips on Boxlish from moi.. - (Ashton)
                 No - (deSitter) - (1)
                     Agree with your definition except /politician/republican -NT - (boxley)

So yeah, this is a thing. One of those things that you come across online that makes you think, "That's enough internet for the day."
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