Amazingly clueless

Post #168,338 by JayMehaffey 8/9/04 5:01:55 PM Reply	Amazingly clueless Where such documentaries covered the Middle East we have obtained a transcript and/or a video of the programme and analysed whether the programme leaves an overall negative or positive impression of one or other party to the conflict. We have substantiated our findings with quotations from the documentaries.. We would not expect each programme to be balanced. Each programme maker will inevitably have a point of view which they wish to get across. Some will believe that the Israelis are the real root of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, others will think that it is the Palestinians. Also some programmes are bound to give a negative impression of one side or another. A programme devoted to Arafat\ufffds corruption (were one to be made) would likely leave the viewer with a negative impression of Palestinians. A programme devoted to Sabra and Shatila would likely leave the viewer with a negative impression of Israelis. Both stories have a place and documentaries on either subject can be justified. What cannot be justified is a significant imbalance over time between the two narratives. These people are pushing the idiots view of balance, which holds that you have to present both sides for roughly the same amount of time and in equality quality. This attitude is one of the most destructive because it treats all issues as if both sides where equally valid. Even worse, this attitude is often tied to the thinking that holds that all issues have exactly two mirror image sides. Jay
Post #168,382 by rcareaga 8/9/04 11:47:48 PM Reply	Eggzacklee Israelis = good. Palestinians = evil. The slightest attempt to nuance this absolute truth consitutes irrefutable proof of anti-semitism. Good work, men. Carry on.
Post #168,407 by boxley 8/10/04 8:24:05 AM Reply	nonononononono jews good "Israelis,palestinians=fucked" arabs=who gives a shit. thanx, bill "delayed incessantly by people whose prevalent qualification was an excess of free-time" Philip Atkinson questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #168,409 by boxley 8/10/04 8:52:04 AM Reply	unless you nuance it like the french [link\|http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1092021256783&apage=1\|http://www.jpost.com...021256783&apage=1] "In some way, I felt that these men were satisfied to visit Auschwitz. This was another reminder that in Western Europe there is sympathy for dead Jews; it's just the live ones that they cannot tolerate." thanx, bill "delayed incessantly by people whose prevalent qualification was an excess of free-time" Philip Atkinson questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #168,544 by a6l6e6x 8/10/04 11:32:01 PM Reply	Box, that was one side of a story. It would have been nice to see what an impartial observer said. Last fall while on that river cruise down the Danube, there was a group of a half a dozen or more loud-mouthed arrogant demanding passengers on board. In the dining room, we were some 20 feet from them and they would drown out the remainder of the 150 or so passengers. You have to picture the classic "ugly American" stereotype. However, they were not speaking English and were not Americans. They were Israelis. While I could not identify the language, our friends could. My wife and I were traveling with our Jewish friends from NY. On an "old city" walking tour of perhaps Nuremberg, one of these Israeli ladies engaged the local tour guide. "Didn't all the Germans know about the holocaust while it was in progress?" And the guide responds, "Some knew, some suspected, but many did not know." "The Germans feel a lot of guilt...", etc, etc. Well, as if one could bring back the dead, that wasn't good enough! "How could the Germans not know?" And on and on it went until we had to board the bus. Alex "If I seem unduly clear to you, you must have misunderstood what I said." -- Alan Greenspan, Federal Reserve chairman
Post #168,578 by boxley 8/11/04 7:46:12 AM Reply	Alex, you take the fun out of it :-) I work with Israelis as the largest supplier of Cellular billing systems is Amdocs, they are quick to point out that any problems they encounter must reside within the software I support. Yes, take ugly american and get him speaking Israeli then add Russian (where a lot of them are from Lately) and it isnt pretty. It also appears that Ignorance is pretty much world wide. Down here we hate the fucking yankee's who think they own all our parking spaces and restaurant seats, next fall just mail us a check and stay home. thanx, bill "delayed incessantly by people whose prevalent qualification was an excess of free-time" Philip Atkinson questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

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