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New As determined by years of personal knowledge, yes?
Never met either one...so I wouldn't know.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

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New No, probably not........ best wait for mathematical proof.
     Swift Boat Veterans for Truth - (johnu) - (61)
         You'll have to do better than that - (Silverlock) - (5)
             Miserable swine -NT - (deSitter)
             The media blitz has started... - (johnu) - (1)
                 G\ufffdbbels Said That First -NT - (Ashton)
             Where are you car 54? - (Silverlock) - (1)
                 It was quite timely - (johnu)
         This group and it's story . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (8)
             Summary? - (johnu) - (7)
                 Re: Summary? - (Andrew Grygus) - (6)
                     Wanna bet this will backfire on them... - (johnu) - (4)
                         It could - (JayMehaffey) - (3)
                             Re: It could - (deSitter) - (2)
                                 Bad analogy - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                     Right! :) -NT - (deSitter)
                     Re: Summary? - (deSitter)
         McCain condems Swiftboats - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
             He's very shrewd - (deSitter)
         Curiouser and curiouser - (Simon_Jester) - (5)
             And the hits keep on a'coming. - (Simon_Jester) - (4)
                 If you continue reading... - (johnu) - (2)
                     And, if you read even farther . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                     Oooops - accidental double post - (Andrew Grygus)
                 Don't count your hits too soon. - (marlowe)
         It's too smarmy for my taste. - (Another Scott) - (36)
             Gutter Politics - (johnu) - (34)
                 Re: Gutter Politics - (deSitter) - (29)
                     Blatant Double Standard - (johnu) - (28)
                         Just starting to notice this, eh? ;-) -NT - (bepatient)
                         As someone who fails to see the double-standard... - (ben_tilly) - (17)
                             now now show me the ruling - (boxley) - (16)
                                 You know as well as I - (ben_tilly) - (15)
                                     Let me quote from the ruling - (boxley) - (14)
                                         As I said, the net effect was the same -NT - (ben_tilly) - (13)
                                             Actually. - (bepatient) - (10)
                                                 Nit: Your choice:Regardless or Irrespective. Not both. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                 Actually, not - (ben_tilly) - (8)
                                                     There were 2 rulings. - (bepatient) - (7)
                                                         Timeout everyone. Thread starting with #17834. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                             And I, respectfully, disagree - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                                 Sorry. A preemptive strike based on faulty intelligence. :) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                             I got a stars and bars that disagrees wit you -NT - (boxley)
                                                         Please recheck those facts - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                             Agree on several fronts. - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                 I think that we've reached agreement -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                             without them the Florida Legislature had a large majority - (boxley) - (1)
                                                 You may well be right - (ben_tilly)
                         Re: Blatant Double Standard - (deSitter) - (8)
                             As determined by years of personal knowledge, yes? - (bepatient) - (1)
                                 No, probably not........ best wait for mathematical proof. -NT - (Ashton)
                             Not hateful. Just sick. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                 ROfl reminds me of skank and Bill - (boxley)
                                 I don't agree - (deSitter) - (3)
                                     And I bet he kicks his dog, too! -NT - (bepatient) - (2)
                                         Re: And I bet he kicks his dog, too! - (deSitter) - (1)
                                             Yep, remember - thought those prolly exaggeration. - (Ashton)
                 I was thinking along the lines of Jefferson vs Adams in 1800 - (Another Scott) - (2)
                     Sounds like a MoveOn.org ad -NT - (johnu) - (1)
                         Karl. Rove. Alone___makes move-on look like the DAR. -NT - (Ashton)
                 Minor nit - (Simon_Jester)
             Nixon wasn't as good at manufacturing... - (jb4)
         Free Republic ties to SBVFT - (Silverlock)

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