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New Posted elsewhere but why not?
Here's an extensive quote:

On April 20, 1999, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold launched an assault on Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, murdering 13 and wounding 23 before turning the guns on themselves. Although it is impossible to know exactly what caused these teens to attack their own classmates and teachers, a number of factors probably were involved. One possible contributing factor is violent video games. Harris and Klebold enjoyed playing the bloody, shoot-'em-up video game Doom, a game licensed by the U.S. military to train soldiers to effectively kill. The Simon Wiesenthal Center, which tracks Internet hate groups, found in its archives a copy of Harris' web site with a version of Doom that he had customized. In his version there are two shooters, each with extra weapons and unlimited ammunition, and the other people in the game can't fight back. For a class project, Harris and Klebold made a videotape that was similar to their customized version of Doom. In the video, Harris and Klebold dress in trench coats, carry guns, and kill school athletes. They acted out their videotaped performance in real life less than a year later. An investigator associated with the Wiesenthal Center said Harris and Klebold were "playing out their game in God mode" (Pooley, 1999, p. 32).

They didn't customize a copy of Risk or make scary looking chess pieces. They used the same software the military apparently uses (?) to train people to kill effectively, so it must be a very realistic simulation.
-drl
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And I suppose you blame the Beatles for Manson, too...

Wackos do shit like that. The game is a tool, not the cause.
Regards,

-scott anderson

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That's sophistry. You might as well blame Mahler for suicides because depressive types like it.

How can there be any doubt that a young person who is filling his days with crude violence, even if simulated, is being permanently damaged by it? It's common sense.
-drl
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But in the good old days, when blacks stood up for whites, and before women had the vote, everyone's life was violent, surely? Why, you couldn't be considered a proper southerner until you'd been to your first lynching.


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New 40 cups a day of green tea will give you cancer, too.
All things in moderation. Too much of certain vitamins will kill you too. A small amount of radiation can actually reduce cancer incidence.

So stop arguing about the games, and realize that the problem lies in how they are used.
Regards,

-scott anderson

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     Doom 3 First Impressions - (altmann) - (48)
         I - just - don't - get it -NT - (deSitter) - (2)
             Neither do I, at $60 price point :) -NT - (Arkadiy)
             I think country music is arse. - (pwhysall)
         Hehehe... - (folkert)
         Doom 3 - 2nd Impressions - (altmann) - (35)
             Re: Doom 3 - 2nd Impressions - (deSitter) - (34)
                 It is an escape. - (folkert) - (19)
                     I love games - (deSitter) - (18)
                         Ever watch a horror film? -NT - (admin) - (16)
                             Not the kind with gore and murder, no -NT - (deSitter) - (15)
                                 Ever seen Alien? -NT - (admin) - (14)
                                     Fundamentally different - (deSitter) - (13)
                                         WTF are you talking about? - (admin) - (12)
                                             Sure - (deSitter) - (11)
                                                 Nope. - (folkert) - (5)
                                                     Posted elsewhere but why not? - (deSitter) - (4)
                                                         Re: Posted elsewhere but why not? - (admin) - (3)
                                                             Re: Posted elsewhere but why not? - (deSitter) - (2)
                                                                 Re: Posted elsewhere but why not? - (pwhysall)
                                                                 40 cups a day of green tea will give you cancer, too. - (admin)
                                                 Yep, you can deathmatch. - (admin) - (4)
                                                     Over here, GTA is 18-certificated - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                                         Wat EEZ thees "Reality" you spork of? -NT - (folkert) - (1)
                                                             UT2k4 hopefully arriving tomorrow... - (pwhysall)
                                                         I don't necessarily have a problem with the game for adults - (admin)
                         Gamer as in the traditional "Computer Games Gamer" - (folkert)
                 Re: Doom 3 - 2nd Impressions - (pwhysall) - (5)
                     Re: Doom 3 - 2nd Impressions - (deSitter) - (4)
                         Re: Doom 3 - 2nd Impressions - (pwhysall) - (3)
                             extreme gardening -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                 Got it on DVD? -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                     Its played on BBCAM several times a day - (boxley)
                 I was looking forward to the long thread from Chris's post. - (static) - (7)
                     Perhaps Ross should have jumped his post earlier - (boxley) - (6)
                         If he'd branched to another forum, it would have been fine. - (static) - (5)
                             Re: If he'd branched to another forum - (deSitter) - (4)
                                 "Ptooey!", says Ross... - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                     Re: "Ptooey!", says Ross... - (deSitter) - (1)
                                         That's fine. - (pwhysall)
                                     +5, Accuracy. -NT - (static)
         Okay, after buying Doom3 Wednesday Night, 8/4 - (folkert) - (6)
             Curious: What did you think of these titles? - (inthane-chan) - (3)
                 Own all of them.... - (folkert) - (2)
                     For SS2 you want this link: - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                         Thanks... - (folkert)
             Heh.. - (Ashton)
             Scary game elements. - (static)
         Doom 3 First Impressions, part Deux (new thread) - (pwhysall)

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