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Post #16,690 by Brandioch 11/5/01 5:01:13 PM Reply	And they didn't. Because? "They could have undressed her...hung her upside down....and looked at her make-up with an electron microscope...they STILL are allowed to refuse her passage...because she refused their screening." Again, that is what you would normally expect them to do, isn't it? But that didn't happen. Why?
Post #16,692 by bepatient 11/5/01 5:02:58 PM Reply	Well now... ...that may have violated some of her >actual< rights. But instead they only violated the one that she made up for the press. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #16,700 by Brandioch 11/5/01 5:10:19 PM Reply	I'm not following that. You said: "They could have undressed her...hung her upside down....and looked at her make-up with an electron microscope...they STILL are allowed to refuse her passage...because she refused their screening." But they didn't. I asked why they didn't. You said that that would have violated her rights. But if you read your quote again, you'll find that you said they COULD do that. So, if they can do that because she did what she did, how would them doing that violate her rights?
Post #16,708 by bepatient 11/5/01 5:20:04 PM Reply	Um... gee...I'll try and make it sound even MORE rediculous so you might actually comprehend that... ah...fuck it...if you wanna be that dense its your prerogative. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]

Green Party USA Coordinator Detained at Airport - (altmann) - (119) - Nov. 3, 2001, 04:39:39 PM EST

What was Ari's line again? - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Nov. 3, 2001, 05:26:02 PM EST

Growlf...wrong line - (Simon_Jester) - Nov. 4, 2001, 09:59:43 AM EST

Ummmmmm, where to begin. - (Brandioch) - (3) - Nov. 3, 2001, 09:06:01 PM EST

I wish to do more. - (Ashton) - (2) - Nov. 3, 2001, 10:29:13 PM EST

Addendum - (Ashton) - Nov. 3, 2001, 10:50:02 PM EST

Dear Big Brother, - (Brandioch) - Nov. 4, 2001, 04:00:56 AM EST

Massive, Secretive Detention Effort - (bluke) - (5) - Nov. 4, 2001, 06:43:58 AM EST

Emphasis: "Middle Eastern Men" - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - Nov. 4, 2001, 01:15:15 PM EST

"Middle Eastern Men" right now... - (bluke) - (3) - Nov. 4, 2001, 02:27:55 PM EST

It would be rather inconvenient . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Nov. 4, 2001, 03:49:33 PM EST

Re: McVeigh turned Militias unfashionable - (dmarker2) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2001, 09:22:16 PM EST

Not hard to explain the reversal.. - (Ashton) - Nov. 5, 2001, 09:53:35 PM EST

Another (local) view. - (Another Scott) - (83) - Nov. 5, 2001, 10:17:10 AM EST

well, goody - (cwbrenn) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2001, 11:30:56 AM EST

Its one of those grey areas. - (addison) - (3) - Nov. 5, 2001, 12:07:18 PM EST

Heights. Bad. Urk. - (cwbrenn) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2001, 12:18:39 PM EST

What Heights? - (addison) - Nov. 5, 2001, 12:42:48 PM EST

Or a conversation between . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Nov. 5, 2001, 02:15:45 PM EST

Your rights are lost, one by one. - (Brandioch) - (76) - Nov. 5, 2001, 11:58:55 AM EST

What "rights"? - (bepatient) - (75) - Nov. 5, 2001, 12:58:27 PM EST

Police state. - (Brandioch) - (64) - Nov. 5, 2001, 01:56:13 PM EST

Or when you throw them away.... - (addison) - (8) - Nov. 5, 2001, 02:24:01 PM EST

Your reality check just bounced. - (Brandioch) - (7) - Nov. 5, 2001, 02:59:04 PM EST

P, K, B. - (addison) - (6) - Nov. 5, 2001, 04:18:51 PM EST

She did not have a gun. - (Brandioch) - (5) - Nov. 5, 2001, 04:28:24 PM EST

What did she do? - (addison) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:14:46 PM EST

The other points? - (Brandioch) - (3) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:17:54 PM EST

I see part of the problem. - (addison) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:23:48 PM EST

Whatever. - (Brandioch) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:47:47 PM EST

Now if she'd been merely a screaming *son*-of a bitch.. -NT - (Ashton) - Nov. 5, 2001, 06:51:28 PM EST

Read...then post... - (bepatient) - (54) - Nov. 5, 2001, 03:31:50 PM EST

Gotta back Beep on this one. - (Silverlock) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2001, 03:43:09 PM EST

See my other reply. -NT - (Brandioch) - Nov. 5, 2001, 03:46:14 PM EST

Read....Then post. - (Brandioch) - (50) - Nov. 5, 2001, 03:45:01 PM EST

I comprehend just fine. - (Silverlock) - (42) - Nov. 5, 2001, 03:58:09 PM EST

Again, comprehension. - (Brandioch) - (41) - Nov. 5, 2001, 04:29:37 PM EST

Right back atcha - (Silverlock) - (40) - Nov. 5, 2001, 04:40:36 PM EST

Oh >there< it is... - (bepatient) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2001, 04:49:08 PM EST

Damn! Where did I leave my sunglasses? - (Silverlock) - Nov. 5, 2001, 04:52:08 PM EST

That's right. - (Brandioch) - (37) - Nov. 5, 2001, 04:57:31 PM EST

I wonder what would happen if I pissed into the wind? - (Silverlock) - (23) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:01:03 PM EST

She wasn't arrested or detained or charged. - (Brandioch) - (22) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:06:08 PM EST

re: complaints - (Silverlock) - (21) - Nov. 6, 2001, 08:33:28 AM EST

How can I put this? - (Brandioch) - (20) - Nov. 6, 2001, 02:15:08 PM EST

ie Words to Live-By, Cratchit: *Never Question Authority\ufffd* -NT - (Ashton) - Nov. 6, 2001, 02:17:43 PM EST

How can a search be conducted if she won't stand still? - (Another Scott) - (5) - Nov. 6, 2001, 02:22:14 PM EST

Agreed that this *may* have been the case. LITMUS TEST #1 - (Ashton) - (4) - Nov. 6, 2001, 02:32:15 PM EST

Some of us took the essay test. - (Another Scott) - Nov. 6, 2001, 02:36:18 PM EST

And again... - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 6, 2001, 02:55:49 PM EST

Once again, "detained". :) - (Brandioch) - (1) - Nov. 6, 2001, 03:41:25 PM EST

I see you still can't... - (bepatient) - Nov. 6, 2001, 05:12:47 PM EST

*sigh* - (Silverlock) - (12) - Nov. 6, 2001, 02:30:23 PM EST

See above: there are *CONFLICTING* claims. WHO lied most? -NT - (Ashton) - (4) - Nov. 6, 2001, 02:33:51 PM EST

Let's try this shall we? - (Silverlock) - (3) - Nov. 6, 2001, 02:44:39 PM EST

JMFCUTA - (Brandioch) - (2) - Nov. 6, 2001, 04:38:57 PM EST

Try to pay attention here - (Silverlock) - (1) - Nov. 6, 2001, 04:51:17 PM EST

Oops. Wrong window. - (Brandioch) - Nov. 6, 2001, 06:22:05 PM EST

I can post a quote. You cannot. - (Brandioch) - (6) - Nov. 6, 2001, 03:39:06 PM EST

I decline to waste any more time on you -NT - (Silverlock) - Nov. 6, 2001, 03:44:17 PM EST

I'll play, for a while.... - (Another Scott) - (4) - Nov. 6, 2001, 03:57:25 PM EST

And there seem to be conflicting reports. - (Brandioch) - (3) - Nov. 6, 2001, 04:42:43 PM EST

You challenge is still incorrect. - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 6, 2001, 05:14:21 PM EST

Reading with comprehension. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Nov. 6, 2001, 06:23:37 PM EST

Bah -NT - (bepatient) - Nov. 6, 2001, 08:36:21 PM EST

Its obvious you don't understand the rules... - (bepatient) - (12) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:01:14 PM EST

Read with comprehension. - (Brandioch) - (11) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:04:13 PM EST

You are not arrested... - (bepatient) - (10) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:07:33 PM EST

Try it sometime. - (Brandioch) - (9) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:12:14 PM EST

yawn - (bepatient) - (8) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:16:53 PM EST

Your fear tells all. - (Brandioch) - (7) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:25:17 PM EST

couple of comments from the peanut gallery.... - (addison) - (5) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:28:09 PM EST

So, prove it. - (Brandioch) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:35:22 PM EST

Re: So, prove it. - (addison) - (3) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:39:44 PM EST

Your fear tells all. - (Brandioch) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:51:08 PM EST

Re: Your fear tells all. - (addison) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2001, 06:03:39 PM EST

That is called "fear". - (Brandioch) - Nov. 5, 2001, 06:38:11 PM EST

What fear? - (bepatient) - Nov. 5, 2001, 09:22:50 PM EST

And.... - (addison) - Nov. 5, 2001, 04:20:30 PM EST

"Don't touch me" - (Arkadiy) - Nov. 5, 2001, 04:21:16 PM EST

Heh... - (bepatient) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2001, 04:42:32 PM EST

And they didn't. Because? - (Brandioch) - (3) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:01:13 PM EST

Well now... - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:02:58 PM EST

I'm not following that. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:10:19 PM EST

Um... - (bepatient) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:20:04 PM EST

Guess we'll have to see what pattern emerges, and revisit. - (Ashton) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:33:26 PM EST

Which is why I didn't (and don't) - (Simon_Jester) - (9) - Nov. 5, 2001, 04:47:24 PM EST

Then you shouldn't have.. - (bepatient) - (8) - Nov. 5, 2001, 04:50:38 PM EST

Haven't read the Constitution lately... - (Simon_Jester) - (7) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:05:22 PM EST

Highways... - (bepatient) - (5) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:14:59 PM EST

Fine: - (Ashton) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:46:29 PM EST

Umm...better re-read that again.. - (Simon_Jester) - (3) - Nov. 5, 2001, 05:57:24 PM EST

We'll just have to disagree here... - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2001, 09:36:21 PM EST

Perhaps so... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2001, 10:30:21 PM EST

Re: Perhaps so... - (bepatient) - Nov. 5, 2001, 11:05:37 PM EST

A public "taking" is to be compensated -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 5, 2001, 09:05:25 PM EST

My experience. - (a6l6e6x) - Nov. 6, 2001, 02:28:13 PM EST

Interview with the "lady" in question - (Silverlock) - (18) - Nov. 6, 2001, 04:24:33 PM EST

Oh, you were definitely right - (drewk) - (17) - Nov. 6, 2001, 04:43:40 PM EST

And all the while... - (bepatient) - Nov. 6, 2001, 05:28:40 PM EST

Am I reading the same link - (Ashton) - (15) - Nov. 6, 2001, 06:00:17 PM EST

Are you even reading what I posted? - (drewk) - (14) - Nov. 7, 2001, 03:17:12 PM EST

Yes I read - (Ashton) - (13) - Nov. 7, 2001, 03:34:42 PM EST

Bulls**t - (Silverlock) - (12) - Nov. 7, 2001, 03:44:12 PM EST

Nah big D... - (bepatient) - (4) - Nov. 7, 2001, 04:35:06 PM EST

Nahh BeeP: you ain't Really That kind of asshole; - (Ashton) - (3) - Nov. 7, 2001, 04:53:01 PM EST

Right...I'm a completely different type of asshole! :-) - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 7, 2001, 05:10:17 PM EST

Apologies BeeP :[ - (Ashton) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2001, 05:28:34 PM EST

Smiley was there...Ashton-san -NT - (bepatient) - Nov. 7, 2001, 07:05:44 PM EST

Nothing of the sort, unless - (Ashton) - (6) - Nov. 7, 2001, 04:47:22 PM EST

Re: Credentials - (Silverlock) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2001, 04:50:11 PM EST

Misspoke here.. - (Ashton) - Nov. 7, 2001, 05:02:05 PM EST

Come on, Ashton. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Nov. 7, 2001, 04:55:41 PM EST

Tilt! - (Ashton) - (2) - Nov. 7, 2001, 05:20:21 PM EST

OK, I'll try again. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2001, 05:53:02 PM EST

Whew.. - (Ashton) - Nov. 7, 2001, 06:17:30 PM EST

Green Party Certified by Fed Electon Committee - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Nov. 9, 2001, 12:33:05 PM EST

Green Party USA != Green Party of Nader. - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Nov. 9, 2001, 01:27:01 PM EST

AP story and other links. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Nov. 9, 2001, 02:24:32 PM EST

"It's not easy being Green", says Kermit. -NT - (Ashton) - Nov. 9, 2001, 04:44:26 PM EST

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