Post #166,095
7/26/04 1:31:29 PM
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Conductor of the Dis* Philharmonic Orchestra
*See Dante's Inferno
----------------------------------------- It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why? Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand. Mike Royko
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Post #166,099
7/26/04 1:43:06 PM
7/26/04 1:45:29 PM
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heh - it's cold as hell in hell
The word "Inferno" comes from "infernus", below, underground - and does not mean "hot" as such.
It's not generally known that the center of Dante's hell is a frozen wasteland. His image of Dis in his ice-realm is chilling:
\ufffdLo!\ufffd he exclaim\ufffdd, \ufffdlo Dis! and lo the place, Where thou hast need to arm thy heart with strength.\ufffd
How frozen and how faint I then became, Ask me not, reader! for I write it not, Since words would fail to tell thee of my state. I was not dead nor living. Think thyself If quick conception work in thee at all, How I did feel. That emperor, who sways The realm of sorrow, at mid breast from th\ufffd ice Stood forth; and I in stature am more like A giant, than the giants are in his arms. Mark now how great that whole must be, which suits With such a part. If he were beautiful As he is hideous now, and yet did dare To scowl upon his Maker, well from him May all our mis\ufffdry flow. Oh what a sight! How passing strange it seem\ufffdd, when I did spy Upon his head three faces: one in front Of hue vermilion, th\ufffd other two with this Midway each shoulder join\ufffdd and at the crest; The right \ufffdtwixt wan and yellow seem\ufffdd: the left To look on, such as come from whence old Nile Stoops to the lowlands. Under each shot forth Two mighty wings, enormous as became A bird so vast. Sails never such I saw Outstretch\ufffdd on the wide sea. No plumes had they, But were in texture like a bat, and these He flapp\ufffdd i\ufffd th\ufffd air, that from him issued still Three winds, wherewith Cocytus to its depth Was frozen. At six eyes he wept: the tears Adown three chins distill\ufffdd with bloody foam. At every mouth his teeth a sinner champ\ufffdd Bruis\ufffdd as with pond\ufffdrous engine, so that three Were in this guise tormented. But far more Than from that gnawing, was the foremost pang\ufffdd By the fierce rending, whence ofttimes the back Was stript of all its skin. \ufffdThat upper spirit, Who hath worse punishment,\ufffd so spake my guide, \ufffdIs Judas, he that hath his head within And plies the feet without. Of th\ufffd other two, Whose heads are under, from the murky jaw Who hangs, is Brutus: lo! how he doth writhe And speaks not! Th\ufffd other Cassius, that appears So large of limb. But night now re-ascends, And it is time for parting. All is seen.\ufffd
-drl
Edited by deSitter
July 26, 2004, 01:45:29 PM EDT
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Post #166,105
7/26/04 1:57:30 PM
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Map of Hell
[link|http://www.tabula-rasa.info/Horror/Inferno.html|http://www.tabula-ra...rror/Inferno.html]
Apparently there is no circle reserved for Java designers, but they would fit nicely between "Counselors of Fraud" and "Sowers of Discord".
-drl
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Post #166,121
7/26/04 2:54:26 PM
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That demonstrates that new sins can be created
"Java developer" wasn't a possible sin in Dante's day. :-)
Cheers, Ben
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
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Post #166,122
7/26/04 3:01:05 PM
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Re: That demonstrates that new sins can be created
Not developers! They belong with the "Virtuous pagans" :)
-drl
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Post #166,123
7/26/04 3:03:57 PM
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Wasn't Dis filled with... Heretics?
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning, As hopeless as it seems in the middle, Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #166,124
7/26/04 3:14:01 PM
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Only if he ate them
Dis has swallowing issues - he eternally chows down on Brutus and Cassius, the assasins of Caesar, with two of his three mouths, but does manage to repeatedly gobble down Judas with the third.
It is interesting that the vision here is trinitarian. Jung would call this imaginary realm the "shadow" of the heavenly realm. I suppose Brutus and Cassius are analogous to J's crossmates.
The realm of Dis, the 9th circle, is called "Cocytus" and is dominated by an icy plain and lake. Cocytus is also one of the five rivers of Hell, along with Acheron, Lethe, Phlegethon, and Styx. Four new rock bands are waiting to be marketed!
-drl
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Post #166,130
7/26/04 3:40:12 PM
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But.. I thought
Dis was the name of the city in Canto 9; the city with walls of red-hot iron, and Satan was in the center pf the lake in the 9th level, the circle of traitors, using Brutus, Cassius, and Judas as bubblegum...
Oddly enough, though I've read Dante's Inferno, the main memories I have of the 'geography' of Hell come from [link|http://www.marypat.org/stuff/mywords/dante.html|Niven and Pournelle's "Inferno"]. It's more relevant to today...
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning, As hopeless as it seems in the middle, Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #166,132
7/26/04 3:52:01 PM
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Ecco Dite!
[link|http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu:1321/dynaweb/dante/inferno/@Generic__BookTextView/14699;pt=14699#X|http://jefferson.vil.../14699;pt=14699#X]
Search for "Ecco Dite" - "Behold Dis!"
[link|http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu:1321/dynaweb/dante/inferno/@Generic__BookView|http://jefferson.vil...Generic__BookView]
-drl
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Post #166,144
7/26/04 4:12:42 PM
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Dite~Lucifer! I did not know that!
At least it's one of four names [link|http://www.marypat.org/stuff/mywords/dante.html|here].
I also find Dis refers to Pluto, the god of the Underworld.
I wonder how I got that confused?
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning, As hopeless as it seems in the middle, Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #166,145
7/26/04 4:13:27 PM
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Dis-information I suppose...
-drl
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Post #166,150
7/26/04 4:22:44 PM
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"Booooo"!
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning, As hopeless as it seems in the middle, Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #166,152
7/26/04 4:30:08 PM
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-bows-
-drl
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Post #166,153
7/26/04 4:37:03 PM
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I would have asked for Metamucil...
... if I had wanted to go to purgatory...
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #166,154
7/26/04 4:39:58 PM
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Re: I would have asked for Metamucil...
[image|http://home.att.net/~mbaroto/images/divine.jpg||||]
DIS - p. 666 of "Divine's Comedy", copyright Feces Press. All frights reserved.
-drl
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Post #166,158
7/26/04 4:48:23 PM
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THAT was TRULY uncalled for!
But, uh, yeah. That would work too. Wrong orifice, though...
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #166,161
7/26/04 5:06:31 PM
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It's Hell.
There IS no such thing as "the wrong orifice" in Hell...
WANTED: Precognitive Telepath for adventuring Partnership. You know where to apply.
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Post #166,164
7/26/04 5:14:30 PM
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Re: It's Hell.
Oh, you wanted *torture*! Sorry, you've got the wrong place. You want the orifice down the hall, 7B.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #166,258
7/27/04 10:02:27 AM
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Ive been down on Hall, rated 8A
Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518 I wondered what Darwinian moment had to effect itself before we devolved from children flying paper flags in the sky to half formed creatures thundering in a wall of horns down the road to Roncevaux. James Lee Burke questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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Post #166,349
7/27/04 6:55:08 PM
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Ah, you mean - where lectures are not-held,
at Unseen University.
I grok to fullness.
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Post #166,355
7/27/04 7:10:57 PM
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OT: just discovered Discworld movies (new thread)
Created as new thread #166354 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=166354|OT: just discovered Discworld movies]
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #166,137
7/26/04 4:01:40 PM
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Full field...
[link|http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=593#discography|Lethe] - Like Tull and ELO [link|http://www.deathmetal.com/acheron/|Acheron] - this one is amusing. Satanic Death Metal [link|http://musica.mustdie.ru/en/band/phlegethon/1134/|Phlegethon] - Death Metal, natch. Grand Rapids, even... [link|http://www.gainesvillebands.com/banddetail.asp?bandid=183|Cocytus] - Metal. Apparently less Death or Satan involved than the others...
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #166,139
7/26/04 4:02:28 PM
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ROFL!! how stupid of me :)
-drl
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