Massive, Secretive Detention Effort

Post #16,436 by bluke 11/4/01 6:43:58 AM Reply	Massive, Secretive Detention Effort [link\|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36356-2001Nov3.html\|Massive, Secretive Detention Effort Aimed Mainly at Preventing More Terror] "As investigators race to comprehend the ongoing terrorist threat, the government has adopted a deliberate strategy of disruption -- locking up large numbers of Middle Eastern men, using whatever legal tools they can. The operation is being conducted under great secrecy, with defense attorneys at times forbidden to remove documents from court and a federal gag order preventing officials from discussing the detainees."
Post #16,468 by Andrew Grygus 11/4/01 1:15:15 PM Reply	Emphasis: "Middle Eastern Men" Logical, since Middle Eastern women probably aren't much of a threat - the promise of 70 black eyed virgins likely holds a lot less attraction for them. Here in Los Angeles, Middle Eastern men keep having to fly back home every few years to get new wives. When the current ones figure out what it's like to be an American woman, they tend to "go bad" and need to be replaced. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #16,475 by bluke 11/4/01 2:27:55 PM Reply	"Middle Eastern Men" right now... But what happens if something like the Oklahoma City bombing happens again, then it won't be "middle eastern men" but white men, I have a feeling you won't like that too much.
Post #16,479 by Andrew Grygus 11/4/01 3:49:33 PM Reply	It would be rather inconvenient . . . . for our government of white guys in suits to clamp down real hard on white guys as a class. No, they'll try to narrow supression down to a specific group or class of groups as they always have. Commies anyone? Of course, I might have to start wearing a suit again . . Besides, we tend to be sort of a self regulating bunch. I don't remember the exact figures, but as I recall, since Oklahoma City, the great majority of white guy militias have dissolved. The participants had fun with the idea until the serious consequences became evident. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #16,757 by dmarker2 11/5/01 9:22:16 PM Reply	Re: McVeigh turned Militias unfashionable dropping membership to a mid western or southern Militia seemed to occur very very quickly. It is quite intriguing as to how quickly anti-govt sentiment has trans morphed from 'sinister forces lockstep with sinister govt' to 'loveable idiots trying to do their best in a tough spot'. Is this what it has meant to get rid of Democrats & install Republicans. Because the really nutty part is that the reality is most likely to be the revers of the perceived :-) Cheers Doug
Post #16,767 by Ashton 11/5/01 9:53:35 PM Reply	Not hard to explain the reversal.. Doublespeak; as in Double Plus Ungood = 'very bad' ie the streak of anti-intellectualism in Murica is as ancient as our xenophobia and Puritan roots. Rather dense RR became, lovable avuncular Ronnie - and he already knew the right buzzwords - mumble ... Flag! .. mumble .. Freedom! and so on. Muricans quite suspicious of anyone who ever could pronounce sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate, but make allowances for Net Debenture Money Velocity compounded semi-quarterly via the sum-of-the-years digits method. (Because that is about our God) They hated Adlai because he spoke actual English sentences.. Gore alas - has both skeletons in closet (like Dubya's Prescott B.), a lousy line of public patter - and other defects. There was no 'Democrat' candidate last year; it was the Clinton Modified Repub version, ie steal their platform before they can launch stuff like the ugly-ugly 'welfare reform': Provisions of which are coming home to roost all across Murica, just in time to really sock it to the poorest tens of millions -- in Recession Time. Probably Clinton got-off (on speaking in complete sentences! - esp. after Bush Sr's laughable speech impedimentia) for the "Southern thing" - even though his accent was hardly noticeable by campaign time. We'll pick folksy over brainy any time (Bush Sr. never managed either = why C. had an advantage). (Well that's just one take) A.

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