Post #164,357
7/14/04 7:09:13 AM
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On graphics card choice
First up, I'd say that for the novice Linux user, the nVidia drivers seem to be more readily installable. I've got a Radeon 9800 Pro, and while straightforward, the driver installation wasn't simple.
Let this drive your hardware choice.
UT2004 and 2003 run on Linux, albeit with a substantial but not crippling performance hit.
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Post #164,443
7/14/04 3:28:30 PM
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Re: On graphics card choice
Yeah it looks like I will have to use nVidia at list for now.
But then again things change in PC world some times faster then we would like them to (graphic wars) so by the time I am actualy ready to builed my computer ATi may come to their sences and god forbid actualy write a driver or 2 for Linux.
Also ATi's lack of usable driver for Linux is only over shadowed by the fact that nVidia is already providing 64 bit drivers for Linux and that should factor in nicely into what card I choose spend my money on.
You mentioned UT2k4 performans drop, how bad is that and dose it increse with use of mods (I dont play the orignal game only Red Orchestra)?
Thanx for the Info
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Post #164,455
7/14/04 4:09:28 PM
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Oh, the ATi driver's USABLE, all right :)
I've got it and it provides shitkicking OpenGL performance. It's just a bit of a git to install.
Can't comment on the 64-bit stuff.
I dual boot my system, and between Windows and Linux there's a performance drop of not less than about 25%. It never renders the game unplayable but it does steal some of that silky goodness.
Peter
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Post #164,459
7/14/04 4:15:13 PM
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Re: Oh, the ATi driver's USABLE, all right :)
To clear things up I understand that ATi drivers are not horrble but I was reffering to 3.9 vertion that took 2 month to write and it offered almost no impruvement.
IMO things can only get better from here on, I know I am an optimist when it comes to computers.
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Post #164,460
7/14/04 4:16:12 PM
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3.9 drivers are fine here....
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Post #164,462
7/14/04 4:21:52 PM
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Re: 3.9 drivers are fine here....
I cant argue with you since you are the one actualy using them but most of my info comes from rage3d linux forums. You will forgive me for coming off as a bit of ATi basher but I actualy love the brand and is the only card I would choose (using 9800pro 128 now).
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Post #164,491
7/14/04 9:27:40 PM
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WTF are you talking about?
UT2004 and 2003 run on Linux, albeit with a substantial but not crippling performance hit. I have seen it run on the same machine with either Windows or Linux... basically, NO noticeable difference. ATI drivers are a bit more obtuse an install. While nVidia is more straight forward. -- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]
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Post #164,507
7/15/04 1:47:24 AM
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Re: WTF are you talking about?
The OGL rendering paths are performance-equivalent on Win and Lin. The DX rendering path is faster.
Sad but true.
Peter
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Post #164,561
7/15/04 11:03:40 AM
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This I'll prolly give you.
I'll ask the guyto check too.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]
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