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New So you admit...
...that the "ideal" state of the "South" never existed?

Even at its best, it still held slavery as a workable idea, venerated rich landholders over the working poor, and generally was a crappy place to be.
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New And, it was/is hot and sticky, too!
jb4
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New Re: So you admit...
No, the one with the keepers of the Constitutional flame, the best segment, the armies - defeated and quartered. The rest disillusioned.

That one was gone in 1865.

Note: the wealthy on both sides acted in accordance with the safety of their wealth. That was not North/South - that was rich/poor.
-drl
     Hey Ross, a couple things to remember... - (inthane-chan) - (4)
         South is no more, alas - (deSitter) - (3)
             So you admit... - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                 And, it was/is hot and sticky, too! -NT - (jb4)
                 Re: So you admit... - (deSitter)

Close to the edge.
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