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New Our Man in Niger
[link|http://www.nationalreview.com/may/may200407121105.asp|http://www.nationalr...y200407121105.asp]

But now Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV \ufffd he of the Hermes ties and Jaguar convertibles \ufffd has been thoroughly discredited. Last week's bipartisan Senate intelligence committee report concluded that it is he who has been telling lies.

For starters, he has insisted that his wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, was not the one who came up with the brilliant idea that the agency send him to Niger to investigate whether Saddam Hussein had been attempting to acquire uranium. "Valerie had nothing to do with the matter," Wilson says in his book. "She definitely had not proposed that I make the trip." In fact, the Senate panel found, she was the one who got him that assignment. The panel even found a memo by her. (She should have thought to use disappearing ink.)

Wilson spent a total of eight days in Niger "drinking sweet mint tea and meeting with dozens of people," as he put it. On the basis of this "investigation" he confidently concluded that there was no way Saddam sought uranium from Africa. Oddly, Wilson didn't bother to write a report saying this. Instead he gave an oral briefing to a CIA official.

Oddly, too, as an investigator on assignment for the CIA he was not required to keep his mission and its conclusions confidential. And for the New York Times, he was happy to put pen to paper, to write an op-ed charging the Bush administration with "twisting," "manipulating" and "exaggerating" intelligence about Saddam Hussein's weapons programs "to justify an invasion."

In particular he said that President Bush was lying when, in his 2003 State of the Union address, he pronounced these words: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

We now know for certain that Wilson was wrong and that Bush's statement was entirely accurate.

The British have consistently stood by that conclusion. In September 2003, an independent British parliamentary committee looked into the matter and determined that the claim made by British intelligence was "reasonable" (the media forgot to cover that one too). Indeed, Britain's spies stand by their claim to this day. Interestingly, French intelligence also reported an Iraqi attempt to procure uranium from Niger.

Yes, there were fake documents relating to Niger-Iraq sales. But no, those forgeries were not the evidence that convinced British intelligence that Saddam may have been shopping for "yellowcake" uranium. On the contrary, according to some intelligence sources, the forgery was planted in order to be discovered \ufffd as a ruse to discredit the story of a Niger-Iraq link, to persuade people there were no grounds for the charge. If that was the plan, it worked like a charm.

But that's not all. The Butler report, yet another British government inquiry, also is expected to conclude this week that British intelligence was correct to say that Saddam sought uranium from Niger.

And in recent days, the Financial Times has reported that illicit sales of uranium from Niger were indeed being negotiated with Iraq, as well as with four other states.

According to the FT: "European intelligence officers have now revealed that three years before the fake documents became public, human and electronic intelligence sources from a number of countries picked up repeated discussion of an illicit trade in uranium from Niger. One of the customers discussed by the traders was Iraq."

There's still more: As Susan Schmidt reported \ufffd back on page A9 of Saturday's Washington Post: "Contrary to Wilson's assertions and even the government's previous statements, the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence."

The Senate report says fairly bluntly that Wilson lied to the media. Schmidt notes that the panel found that, "Wilson provided misleading information to the Washington Post last June. He said then that he concluded the Niger intelligence was based on a document that had clearly been forged because 'the dates were wrong and the names were wrong.'"

The problem is Wilson "had never seen the CIA reports and had no knowledge of what names and dates were in the reports," the Senate panel discovered. Schmidt notes: "The documents \ufffd purported sales agreements between Niger and Iraq \ufffd were not in U.S. hands until eight months after Wilson made his trip to Niger."

Ironically, Senate investigators found that at least some of what Wilson told his CIA briefer not only failed to persuade the agency that there was nothing to reports of Niger-Iraq link \ufffd his information actually created additional suspicion.
New And the apologies come streaming in... not
[link|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html\n|Even the Washington Post has grudgingly admitted it was all a crock]
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New Well, first you have to apologize to
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New 2 forgot link
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Expand Edited by boxley July 14, 2004, 09:36:32 AM EDT
New Report not nearly that conclusive
The fact is that actual report is not nearly as conslusive as the articles you link to suggest. And in fact, if you read the conclusions of the Niger section of the report, it takes the CIA to task for claiming that Niger sold uraninum to Iraq.

The report says that some officals couldn't remember how and other say that his wife offered up his name as a possible canidate. Once it had been proposed that he go to Niger, she did put together a meeting between Wilson and the intelligence people, a meeting she did not attend. The memo they mention was very likely written after the decision had been made, as it was dated Feb 12 and Wilson left on Feb 21. The reality is that the report makes no clear cut statements on this, nor does it seem to contain enough evidence to pin down either side. Wilsons statement that his wife had nothing to do with appears to be incorrect, but it does not appear that his wife pushed to get him the job either.

Insofar as I have had time to check, the other claims are equally overstated.

The most important point is the basic misdiretion here. The critical issue is not if Iraq tried to buy uranium or not, but if the evidence we used to say they where was correct and if the White House knew. A cop that shoots somebody in the belief that they are a wanted criminal can't claim justification if it is later discovered that the person was a criminal, just not the one the cop thought he was shooting.

And the report simply does not justify the statement that Bush was correct. The accustations that Niger may have sold sold some uraninum under the table to Iraq are all vauge and second hand, and the one from the British Government is as self serving as the Senate report. Notice that the assesment of the British report didn't say that it was correct, only that it was resonable. The one thing that is clear cut is that the specific doument that Wilson was sent to investigate is a fake one.

It appears, despite dodges and obfusification, that the White House may have known that the evidence they had backing the claim was bogus. But there is no smoking gun proving that Bush or Cheney knew. And it is even more likely that they did not know that the British claim was, at least in part, based on the same evidence.

However, somebody at the White House then went and made it far worse. The Wilson things was just a small bit on it's own, significant only in how it fits the overall pattern of exaggerating evidence. But outing his wife was a first order felony, if not outright treason.

Jay


New Oh, give him a break.
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