Post #16,391
11/3/01 7:47:01 PM
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Today, no - but this is tomorrow's Windows.
. . Windows XP 2004 will come on a sealed DVD. Instructions for starting your new computer are: - Break seal and remove DVD.
- Put DVD in drive.
- Turn computer on.
The first thing the Install program will do is querry the BIOS for a list of drivers, and check the hard disk. If any drivers don't match the certified list on the DVD, or there are any non-WinXP04 partitions on the disk, Install says, "Sorry, this PC does not meet Microsoft's security requirements" and exits. Back it goes to the store. If the machine meets spec, the install should be quick and painless, asking only for registration information. There will be no hardware probes or anything of the like. This will be no more a hassle for the consumer than today's OEM installation. In order to make the kind of deals they want to make with the RIAA and MPAA, Microsoft will have to have this degree of control over the hardware anyway. Eventually, expanding from the XBox, Microsoft will be the only manufacturer of Windows compatible PCs anyway.
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Post #16,432
11/4/01 5:52:54 AM
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From here to there is still a narrow road.
They can't push too far too soon or they will simply give extra impetus for replacements.
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #16,467
11/4/01 1:02:29 PM
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Loss to alternatives can happen only in the business space -
- so that space is being differentiated for different treatment. Note the "Home Edition" and "Professional Edition" titles now in use, and the fact that 500+ employee corps are no longer allowed to use OEM licenses. This will migrate downward as "volume licensing" did until it reaches 5 employees - so business isn't going to be allowed OEM preloads anyway.
Microsoft is gradually making the "Home" license distasteful to business (restricted networking, multimedia toys) and the "Professional" license distasteful to home users (price, availability).
The consumer space is locked up totally. Consumers will not go to alternatives no matter what, so Microsoft is free to abuse them to the full extent of the law (and beyond) without losing measurable market. They're working on deals with the RIAA/MPAA to make Windows the only distribution channel for copyrighted content.
The consumer space will boil down to a death match between Microsoft and Sony. None other need apply. The RIAA/MPAA will make sure both stay in the picture so they don't get "single sourced".
Linux? Hell no - Kids control the home space and kids are entirely herd animals. Today's kids resent even having to install games - they want plug and go. The most popular games, instant messaging and the most popular music fills out their desires. Microsoft's objective is to see that their parents pay dearly for all three. Linux hasn't a chance in hell except as an embedded OS in game machines and the like.
Sure, a few kids will run Linux, every generation has its social outcasts, but that's not a significant market.
In the business market Microsoft will leverage their Office monopoly and .NET to the full extent of the law (and beyond). They will lose some market share, especially as PCs give way to specialized devices, but their "trump card", freedom from choice, is so attractive to business managers it will hold most of the business market.
PHBs in most companies will sign off on just about any budget busting expense for the privelage of uttering those magic words, "We really don't have a choice here". This will not change until these companies are destroyed by the few competitors willing to use alternatives. They will remain faithful to Microsoft to the very end.
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Post #16,481
11/4/01 4:31:31 PM
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Andy, you really know how to hurt a civilization, doncha!
Tried to hit aaxnet.com, to see if you'd added this gem to the other clue-sticks (a place I send wannabe up-graders, whenever I have the chance). Alas incredibly s l o w just now, to load.
I hope that last er nice notoriety/15 minutes of Fame (with the Reg. link) has kept your hits up to the requisite standards of a primo muckraker's checkin spot! (?) Saves me lots of repetition anyway: I just say, "go there and read; take notes. If I can expand on any points that aren't already crystal clear - I'll try.. or send you to a few other sources".
I may have ID'd two essential and persistent failures of the small and diffuse mass of folk who appear to have grokked the situation to fullness, all along:
1) Still.. while there are several 'local nodes' of the sort as your effort is - there is no organization of "The M$-(ab)Used" that has anything like universal recognition, support = Actual Dues / some means for covering expenses and a few? full-time hires of appropriate sanity and tenacity. Apparently.. thus far, it hasn't seemed to be Worth-it enough - for a significantly large group of the disillusioned to put money where mouth is. "Microsoft Watch and Protection-therefrom" would be the essence of a title, no doubt already used - somewhere.
No $ means that a dedicated editor, organizer would have to starve / live by day job. You can do that for love.. for a time. But who can continue to love.. indefinitely.. an amorphous mass of ovine critters safely grazing on known Anthrax-laced cotton candy? (And Loving It ??)
2) Alcohol- drug- religion- gambling- sex- addictions have all spawned Twelve-Step Rehabilitation orgs, for dissemination of 'Truth' (Ok.. OK.. - see Philosophy forum) and for a few proven methods for kicking addictions: Once! you actually *Are Resolved* to - always that comes first.
Kicking M$ - connotes a kaleidoscope of those intentional lock-in consequences - all built upon the pyramid whose base is surely ~ sloth, intellectual and even survival-laziness which adores comfort and eschews the effort to become informed. Ditto with the other named addictions.
So it is a battle against the very foundations of Murican Pop-culture: ~go to sleep, consume mindlessly, go to a Theme park when the DTs strike. Never question yours or anyone's assumptions -- seek Comfort at all cost. (Political equiv: believe the slogans and the labels; voting is optional. When uncertain - buy something on CC, for comfortable diversion. Dream the Murican Dream nonstop.)
Ergo, it seems: the culture is against 1) paying for information necessary to wanting to be weaned from an addiction; thus 2) even a 12-Step org of excellent planning and execution - might well languish largely unvisited except by - the Choir actually in little need of its services [??]
What have I missed? It appears that Billy n'Bally have been formally anointed as (the most recently noticeable) Co-Popes of Capitalist Theology and shall remain in this position indefinitely, perhaps even unto inheritance by sibling Beastlets yet to be spawned septically.
Leaving: the case of Pope John XXIII, his (very temporary) just plain Wise subtlety and thus: mysterious death, shortly after his views became noticeable to The Curia.
Assassination or concupiscence? Are those the only choices (realistically) left in a declining culture?
Ashton Nuke from orbit. A phrase which just won't go away. The Cassandra Crossing (plague train)
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Post #16,511
11/4/01 8:09:59 PM
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But there's still the retail upgrades
The scenario you describe only applies to new PCs. It will mean retail upgrades will reject most attempts to upgrade with the myriad, existing hardware. Unless you're saying Microsoft won't bother with retail.
Intel won't stand for Microsoft controlling hardware to this level. Microsoft could buy or bribe some other company but surely no rival has the required manufacturing capacity.
Microsoft Outlook - one, big, macro virus portal.
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Post #16,515
11/4/01 8:45:42 PM
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Worrying quote from Tom's Hardware Guide:
"warmachine" writes: Intel won't stand for Microsoft controlling hardware to this level. Microsoft could buy or bribe some other company but surely no rival has the required manufacturing capacity. Well, according to this bit from Tom's [link|http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q4/011031/xpvsp4-15.html|Athlon - Pentium 4 comparison test]: In comparison to the past, the Athlon XP can profit from Windows XP, probably more than Intel CPUs. It seems that AMD helped Microsoft get the optimum out of its new CPUs. ...AMD?
Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
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Post #16,523
11/4/01 9:36:16 PM
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Intel is already defeated - totally.
With the last PC spec (PC 2001 issued jointly by Intel and Microsoft) came the footnote that this would be the last joint spec. From here on out it is up to Microsoft and Microsoft alone to issue PC specs. This is already history.
With XBox, Intel tried to hang tough, so Microsoft went and based the design on an AMD chip. Only by giving away the farm was Intel able, at the last minute, to get the XBox back from AMD.
No, Intel is totally defeated as far as Windows PC specifications is concerned. What they want just doesn't matter (why do you think they're backing Linux?).
As to retail upgrades - they will be a dead-end line. To meet the requirements for "protection of copyrighted content" Microsoft is negotiating with the RIAA/MPAA, they need to get rid of all existing PCs. The current Windows line will probably be enhanced for retail upgrades one or two more times (to bring in revenue), but upgrades will be missing much of the new multimedia capabilities because old PCs can't meet the "content protection" requirements.
The pressure will be to upgrade to a new PC to get the latest Windows.
Remember where we're headed, anyway - Microsoft Windows on Microsoft hardware. XBox is just the begining. In a few years Microsoft will be able to dictate to consumers exactly when they have to go out and buy a new PC. They'll issue a couple of backwards compatible upgrades, then declare one that requires new hardware.
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Post #16,536
11/4/01 10:57:40 PM
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no prob, my next home box is an imac
tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
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Post #16,545
11/5/01 1:56:11 AM
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Yep, made that decision over a year ago
My 8(!) year old IBM PS/VP is still crawling along (albeit with CPU, memory and disk upgrades). The 17" monitor is still going too. But my next machine will carry an Apple logo.
Have fun, Carl Forde
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Post #16,661
11/5/01 4:10:28 PM
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...missing the new multimedia capabilities...
Just FYI, MediaPlayer 8 will ONLY be availible on Windows XP. All prior OSes will stay at revision 7.1, and will be updated as possible, but not as so to break the "security" availible in MediaPlayer 8.
It's actually public knowledge, which is why I can say it here, but by the same measure, I'm not exactly privy to Billy's and Bally's secret mechaniations, despite being two floors directly below them.
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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