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New Re: Unawareness kills.

Were you looking for some kEwL d0odZ perhaps? Wrong venue. Try MSNBC or EZ. As apparently you are unaware, while trotting out trite slogans sans an
iota of research:



No need to sell yourself short, Ashton. You and your buddies are quite the kEwL d0odZ, and only by carefully observing this group did I learn that.



This 'group' coalesced beginning >6 years ago, around the original (working) InfoWorld forums - way back when IW/IWE were making the transition from having been a valuable source of honest technical review to ... mere regurgatation of MS press releases, 'reviewing' of non-existent announced vaporware VS shipping products, and a host of other atrocities.



Wow, you're blowing my mind with the history lesson, d0od. Will there be a
pop quiz tomorrow?



There are quite diverse views here, with consensus perhaps on only one principle: BS will be ferreted out; for the pure Goodness of the exercise.



May I assume then that you're the chief ferret?



Do some homework, read what's already here + on the former location -


[link|http://pub13.ezboard.com/biwethey|EZ-Board]


if you really want to get past naive press-release doggerel and the stuff of Astroturf (perhaps you don't know *that* word either). There's also an archive of much of the original exchanges at IW, being tabulated - as there is among that all technical tutorials and info which some find valuable, for not being time-related.



Ooh, "naive press-release doggerel and the stuff of Astroturf". If I didn't
know better, I'd call that a trite slogan.



Lazy? try aaxnet.com for just one site with one person's prof. 'take'.



Thanks, I checked it out. Pretty standard quasi-religious zealotry, probably
somewhere around the 40th Slashdot Percentile.



Then, if you have a \ufffd possibly someone will debate it.



Either that, or they'll completely ignore my \ufffd and reply with a
generic "don't bother us until you get some schoolin'" form letter.


New Strong disagreement on your /. estimate
Your typical slashbot either has never really worked (often because they are kids of college students) or else has worked, but haven't been anywhere near the actual running of the business.

Now Andrew Grygus may be a bit colorful, but he has been running his own consulting business for many years. He is very aware of the needs of running a business for the simple reason that he has done so for many years. Furthermore his customers are other businesses, and his livelyhood depends on his understanding their needs as well.

So I suggest that you read him more closely. You should find that he isn't blowing smoke for the sake of blowing smoke. He really does know what he is talking about. Your average slashbot is recognizable in large part for their inability to get beyond stereotypical foaming to see why things are happening, and your average slashbot does not understand either the history or technical details. Andrew makes neither mistake.

As for the "kewl doodz" crack, Ashton's point is that we aren't a bunch of script kiddies in here, whining about the latest "in" thing. Most of us are professionals. We may BS about general topics, but when it comes to our areas of technical areas expertise, we are very competent. An area of competency for me is [link|http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node=tilly|Perl]. An area of competency for Andrew Grygus is what a small business needs to know about for its IT needs.

Cheers,
Ben
     Proposed settlement is here. - (Another Scott) - (45)
         Reserve judgement - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
             Thumbs down - (JayMehaffey)
         I don't see - (tuberculosis) - (42)
             Re: I don't see - (Squidley) - (41)
                 Hmmm.... We could build a business model on this..... - (hnick) - (6)
                     Re: Hmmm.... We could build a business model on this..... - (Squidley) - (5)
                         On laws, reality, and perspective... - (hnick) - (4)
                             Re: On laws, reality, and perspective... - (Squidley) - (3)
                                 Unawareness kills. - (Ashton) - (2)
                                     Re: Unawareness kills. - (Squidley) - (1)
                                         Strong disagreement on your /. estimate - (ben_tilly)
                 Sorry, wrong. - (admin) - (3)
                     Really? - (Squidley) - (2)
                         What are you talking about? - (admin) - (1)
                             Re: What are you talking about? - (Squidley)
                 A "remedy" - (tuberculosis) - (29)
                     Re: A "remedy" - (Squidley) - (28)
                         Totally OT - (inthane-chan) - (5)
                             ya mean ya dont know :) -NT - (boxley) - (4)
                                 Well he sure ain't DeSitter... - (inthane-chan) - (3)
                                     look at the name and member our trusted friend and snak sig -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                         Doesn't seem like a match to me.... -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                             Concur - (pwhysall)
                         Could you be more specific about your views? - (Another Scott) - (4)
                             Re: Could you be more specific about your views? - (Squidley) - (3)
                                 So now we know - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                     Re: So now we know - (Squidley) - (1)
                                         Why bother? - (tuberculosis)
                         Who the fuck is this... - (CRConrad) - (15)
                             Re: Who the fuck is this... - (Squidley) - (14)
                                 She know CRC thats fer sure:) -NT - (boxley)
                                 ROFLMAO! - (inthane-chan)
                                 Woohoo! - (pwhysall)
                                 I get the picture - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                                     I didn't.. can you forward? :) -NT - (addison) - (2)
                                         Ha! -NT - (Another Scott)
                                         Well it is unsigned... - (ben_tilly)
                                     Re: I get the picture - (Squidley) - (2)
                                         You probably think you were flamed by Christian? - (ben_tilly)
                                         Tagging suggestions - (kmself)
                                 OK, so you aren't Ross... - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                     Maybe even a Da-_____________? -NT - (Ashton) - (2)
                                         ..."Dalek"? - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                             Re: ..."Dalek"? - (Ashton)
                         Back up your facts - (tuberculosis)

I think that might be an LRPDism candidate...
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