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New ABC: U.S. Search for Bin Laden Narrows
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Nov. 2 \ufffd The hunt for Osama bin Laden has narrowed to a few complexes of caves and tunnels, intelligence officials tell ABCNEWS, as U.S. bombs continue to pound Taliban troop positions in Afghanistan.

The United States has the suspected mountain hideouts of the alleged terror mastermind under 24-hour surveillance from the air and ground, sources say. Now, the debate is whether to go after bin Laden and other leaders of his al Qaeda terror network by using 5,000-pound "bunker buster" bombs, or to take the greater risk of sending in commandos.
The benefit of sending in special operations forces after bin Laden is the certainty of knowing his fate, experts say.

"I think there's a huge upside for the American and allied effort to actually capturing or very definitively confirming the killing of some of the al Qaeda leaders to include bin Laden," said John Hillen, who was in the U.S. special forces for six years.

Defense sources say that plans for raids against bin Laden's strongholds are constantly being revised and rehearsed. Military planners are waiting for the right information and conditions, and a decision by President Bush to make their move, they say.
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Sometimes "tolerance" is just a word for not dealing with things.
New We should make sure Bin Laden is killed by Muslims
That would go a long way to disarming the martyr effect.

Second best would be for him to simply disappear and never be heard from again (as in sealed in some unknown cave)
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New Like those Turkish commandos they sent over? -msg
Ray
New No, Turkey's practically a Western nation here . .
(Errr, sorry about that, CRC).

The Northern Alliance would be OK, but preferable by far would be some revolt in the Taliban.
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New Re: ABC: U.S. Search for Bin Laden Narrows
Could use bunker busters but ground troops have to go in to at least positively id him before they bomb. I won't be satisfied/relieved with Rumsfeld making a press announcement saying 'We probably got him'. Besides, I think there are few Rangers and Delta Force commandos who would like have his body so that they could drag it around (ala Somalia).
Ray
New A positive ID matters
When a popular military leader vanish without confirmation of death, there tend to be unconfirmed sightings later. Upon these unconfirmed sightings tends to grow a body of legend completely out of proportion to that person's actual deeds, and frequently with recurring legends that he will come back to life at some future point.

This has happened in a number of cultures in the past. For instance it is quite possible that the legend of King Arthur started among the Welsh in exactly this way.

We don't want this to happen with Osama...

Cheers,
Ben
New Utter nonsense..
Why next you'd tell us that, say - umm JFK or Elvis.. were appearing in visions - and that people believed that! Have you no respect for the basic common sense of most people?





Frodo Lives!

     Where's Osama? - (marlowe) - (30)
         Satellite 'picks out bin Laden caves' - (marlowe)
         Northern Alliance says they can find him easily. - (marlowe)
         CIA gave it the old college try - (marlowe)
         All about UAV's - (marlowe) - (4)
             Infringes my TLA! Urban Assault Vehicle\ufffd_______ but cute. -NT - (Ashton) - (3)
                 You mean they are *not* catapulting Expeditions? - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                     Not til I'm made procurement officer for 'expendables' .. -NT - (Ashton)
                     Actually... - (admin)
         Which cave has bin Laden? - (marlowe)
         Like father, like son - (marlowe) - (4)
             So, was THAT Doug Adams' "Ultimate Question" ?!? - (CRConrad) - (3)
                 Shhh.. - (Ashton) - (2)
                     Ah, Potiphar Breen! Yes, that was Dick, AFAICR. -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                         OK.. well then - (Ashton)
         Geologist says he's identified that rock behind Osama - (marlowe) - (1)
             UK as well - (kmself)
         Assassination rumors from China - (marlowe)
         ABC: U.S. Search for Bin Laden Narrows - (marlowe) - (6)
             We should make sure Bin Laden is killed by Muslims - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                 Like those Turkish commandos they sent over? -msg -NT - (rsf) - (1)
                     No, Turkey's practically a Western nation here . . - (Andrew Grygus)
             Re: ABC: U.S. Search for Bin Laden Narrows - (rsf)
             A positive ID matters - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                 Utter nonsense.. - (Ashton)
         Ladies and gentlemen, Osama has left the country. - (marlowe) - (2)
             Tell 'em it doesn't change a thing. - (Andrew Grygus)
             Same Taliban envoy to Pakistan... - (a6l6e6x)
         Sunday Times we've got him cornered. - (marlowe)
         Eastern Alliance says they've pinpointed his cave - (marlowe) - (1)
             Ya think The World will settle for DNA evidence from shards - (Ashton)

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