The LSB. Influential? Useful? Relevant?

Post #161,541 by Meerkat 6/24/04 7:51:11 PM 6/24/04 7:52:51 PM Reply	The LSB. Influential? Useful? Relevant? Hi, I'm just trying to get a feel for how much sway the [link\|http://www.linuxbase.org\|LSB] holds with with major Linux distros and/or the community in general. Any opinions? I note it hadn't been mentioned here since some time in 2003. Reason I'm asking: At work they've recently given us access to a whole bunch of on-line courses from [link\|http://www.netg.com/\|NETg]. I'm doing 'Linux Technology Overview' or somesuch, and it spends a great deal of time talking about the LSB, what it is, why it's there, and so on. I guess that for the target audience (Which I assume is people who know hardly anything about Linux), it's probably a good thing, as it imparts the Warm Fuzzies that Linux might be diversified, but it also has a body ensuring a degree of similarity amongst distros. So, is the LSB still relevant? Or does it not get much coverage because it's already achieved its aims? As an aside, I just noticed on their home page that a quote from a very satisfied customer was all about the service, nothing about the content. Maybe that's telling... Edit: Fixed a link Two out of three people wonder where the other one is. Edited by Meerkat June 24, 2004, 07:52:51 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #161,545 by folkert 6/24/04 8:17:35 PM Reply	Been quite a journey. Right now LSB 2.0 is in public review. (Beta/release candidate) 1.x have some severe restrictions that has really factionalized (not fractionalized) the Linux Community. Debian should be the most LSB compliant and it doesn't even come close. Most of the 1.x LSB was pushed by Vendor driven certification, without any regard for flexibility. LSB2.0 make some serious progress in this regard. Restriction, with exceptions and alternate sets of restrictions but still also requiring the standard spec to be "there" be it in symlink or hardlink or other means. This will allow many more Distros to actually make the LSB standard. LSB may end up being irrelevant anyway. As there are bigger things to worry about in terms of interoperability. But then again, if someone finally takes the LSB seriously as a Real effort to embrace and follow the "standards" it may just end up help the Commercial Unices as well. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Heard near the SCOG employee entry/exit way: `Security: We got another Mass Exodus Doorway Jam.`
Post #161,557 by Meerkat 6/24/04 9:29:47 PM Reply	Ta for the info It kinda reinforces my thought that it was there mainly for the Warm Fuzzy factor. Or, whoever compiled the course found one thing in their research, and decided to run with it. :) Still, if it creates a good feeling for people considering trying Linux, it can't be a bad thing. Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
Post #161,559 by broomberg 6/24/04 9:40:41 PM Reply	Yes it can It can give a false expectation of uniformity for a nubie admin. So they start using their first Linux system, and then get pissed it doesn't match their training, and abandon it.
Post #161,561 by Meerkat 6/24/04 9:57:28 PM Reply	I'll see what happens when I get to the Linux Admin for Newbies course. Erm, assuming there is one. (Yes, all version of linux are compeltely standardised, just like Windows DLLs...) On the plus side for this 'Tech Overview' course, it does mention Red Hat, SuSE, Mandrake, and Debian. It also mentions something like 'Word processing is available from companies like Corel, Applix, and Star Team'. I've noted that one down for my feedback. Ah, here's [link\|http://www.netg.com/Catalog_cms/detail.asp?p=6&cn=10&s=315&t=1620&c=US13611\|NETg's overview] of the course. Heh ... 'Linux Torvald'... Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
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Post #161,574 by pwhysall 6/25/04 2:26:30 AM Reply	Re: The LSB. Influential? Useful? Relevant? I regard the FHS as being more useful and relevant in every day life. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #161,575 by Meerkat 6/25/04 4:13:35 AM Reply	Must admit I hadn't heard of it. But I like the idea - I'll mention that in my feedback for this course as well. I'm starting to feel like an beta tester for this course :) Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
Post #161,627 by folkert 6/25/04 1:32:27 PM Reply	Here Here! That brings a rousing round of applause. If Linux were to follow that nearly the way it should... Things would just play together better anywhere. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Heard near the SCOG employee entry/exit way: `Security: We got another Mass Exodus Doorway Jam.`
Post #161,708 by pwhysall 6/26/04 3:35:02 AM Reply	Where Where? Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]

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