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Post #161,501 by SpiceWare 6/24/04 4:49:24 PM Reply	will it matter? I thought the reason sub-pixel anti-aliasing worked so well is that the 3 subpixels were horizontal. If your rotate then they'll be vertical. (googling) [link\|http://grc.com/ctwhat.htm\|How Sub-Pixel Font Rendering Works] - scroll down to the he section titled "Limitations of Sub-Pixel Rendering" ONLY Landscape . . . not Portrait! As we've seen, sub-pixel rendering only enhances the horizontal resolution of LCD panels. It's incredibly convenient that 'horizontally' is precisely where text needs the most help! Emboldening stretches text only horizontally, kerning and micro-justification only shift text horizontally, and italicizing slants type by skewing it horizontally. However, this means that existing color LCD panel technology can not be used with sub-pixel text rendering when the panel is used in a vertical, or portrait, orientation. Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://www.spiceware.org/cgi-bin/spa.pl?album=./Artistic%20Overpass\|Artistic Overpass]\n[link\|http://www.spiceware.org/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #161,504 by pwhysall 6/24/04 4:52:50 PM Reply	Fwoosh! Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #161,506 by pwhysall 6/24/04 4:54:10 PM Reply	And... ...Xft can change the pixel order: RGB, BGR; VRGB, VBGR. So that article's correct as far as Windows goes... Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #161,527 by inthane-chan 6/24/04 5:37:28 PM Reply	ClearType can do BGR. I don't know why they did it this way, but Microsoft has this little web-based cleartype tuner which you can only find by driving on down to Microsoft's website. It's on [link\|http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypeInfo.mspx\|this] page. Of course, it can only do RGB and BGR, no other options. My bet is there's a reghack out there that will let you reconfigure it any which way you want. Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain. You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today. And then one day you find ten years have got behind you. No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
Post #161,534 by pwhysall 6/24/04 5:46:26 PM Reply	I know. I've got a Dell 1800FP. Nice monitor. BGR. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #161,529 by SpiceWare 6/24/04 5:40:29 PM Reply	I've seen the vertical options in Linux but from what he's saying, the font's need help most in the horizontal direction. That makes sense to me, the tops & bottoms of all the letters I'm currently typing fall on the same line. If this makes sense then vertical sub-pixel rendering is not as useful. It might help with Asian character sets, if I recall correct some of those are written up/down. Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://www.spiceware.org/cgi-bin/spa.pl?album=./Artistic%20Overpass\|Artistic Overpass]\n[link\|http://www.spiceware.org/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #161,532 by pwhysall 6/24/04 5:45:30 PM Reply	VBGR/VRGB are for rotated displays :) Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #161,536 by SpiceWare 6/24/04 5:55:07 PM Reply	understood the point is when the RGB pixels are aligned perpendicular to the text's baseline then sub-pixel rendering is not as helpful. Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://www.spiceware.org/cgi-bin/spa.pl?album=./Artistic%20Overpass\|Artistic Overpass]\n[link\|http://www.spiceware.org/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #161,538 by pwhysall 6/24/04 5:57:57 PM Reply	Ah, nog. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #161,510 by drewk 6/24/04 5:10:56 PM Reply	Ooh, hadn't thought about that I'll have to take a look at some of the people that already have them rotated and see what the text looks like. === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #161,512 by drewk 6/24/04 5:14:51 PM Reply	But you know what? I use a system font for my coding specifically so I don't have to worry aout anti-aliasing of the text. Every line is exactly one full pixel wide. (Unless it's bold, then it's two full pixels.) So turning vertical might look just fine for me. === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #161,516 by pwhysall 6/24/04 5:19:32 PM Reply	Look in GNOME Font Preferences Steve Gibson yaffles on mightily about Winders, but seemingly is oblivious to the fact that there are better font rendering systems out there - namely the one in Linux. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #161,524 by deSitter 6/24/04 5:31:06 PM Reply	GREAT FIND How fucking stupid of me! Turn off all the sub-pixel shit and try! GREAT IDEA!! -drl