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Post #158,981 by deSitter 6/8/04 10:44:17 AM Reply	The facts speak for themselves Government by illusion always fails. -drl
Post #158,985 by bepatient 6/8/04 10:52:00 AM Reply	So that speaks for Clinton. I thought we were on the gipper If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #158,987 by deSitter 6/8/04 10:55:58 AM Reply	Worse than Reagan, tied with Bush 1 And yes, he also was a master illusionist. America at present has no effective government because the People are too stupid, lazy, and venal to give a shit about their history. All government, Dem and Repo, is cast in the illusionist mold - thanks to Reagan and his damnable ilk. -drl
Post #159,019 by pwhysall 6/8/04 1:20:59 PM Reply	From the UK... ...it looks like your past 4 presidents have been useless wankers of the first water, without exception. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #159,025 by boxley 6/8/04 2:09:39 PM Reply	does margaret wank? You lot seemed to keep electing her. thanx, bill Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518 Time for Lord Stanley to get a Tan questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #159,029 by pwhysall 6/8/04 2:18:24 PM Reply	We do? Funny, that. I thought we elected a Labour government in 1997 (sheesh, only 7 years ago) which has maintained a decent economic record, a reasonable social justice record, and which has an irrational love of speed cameras. You KEEP ELECTING fuckwits term in, term out; in fact, I'd go so far to say you've not had a president worthy of the name since Kennedy. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #159,036 by boxley 6/8/04 2:39:10 PM Reply	Johnson presided over civil rights Nixon broke bread with china, Reagan assisted in the breakup of the USSR. Carter got the camp david accords going and yer right about the rest. thanx. bill Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518 Time for Lord Stanley to get a Tan questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #159,193 by jb4 6/9/04 11:54:43 AM Reply	ICLRPD I thought we elected a Labour government in 1997 (sheesh, only 7 years ago) which has maintained a decent economic record, a reasonable social justice record, and which has an irrational love of speed cameras. Damn the prohibition on political LRPDs. This one trancends politics, and deserves its rightful place... jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #159,194 by jb4 6/9/04 11:55:26 AM Reply	Blasted checkboxes.....mumble jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #159,355 by CRConrad 6/10/04 12:22:08 PM Reply	You see? LRPD defends itself; enforces polito-prohibition!

Gipper gone - (rcareaga) - (103) - June 5, 2004, 05:04:07 PM EDT

Let us celebrate one of his famous utterances, then: - (Ashton) - (1) - June 5, 2004, 05:14:54 PM EDT

My favorite, Reagan speaking in Berlin in 1987, is: - (a6l6e6x) - June 5, 2004, 08:58:28 PM EDT

Re: Gipper gone - (deSitter) - June 5, 2004, 06:37:36 PM EDT

Unlike the other sentiments expressed - (boxley) - (32) - June 5, 2004, 06:46:17 PM EDT

An America full of hope and vision? - (deSitter) - (2) - June 5, 2004, 07:01:03 PM EDT

Sure...Lots of Hope and Vision - (jb4) - (1) - June 7, 2004, 01:02:02 PM EDT

Keep Kerry's wife out of it :) -NT - (boxley) - June 7, 2004, 03:22:16 PM EDT

Nice sentiments. - (bepatient) - (28) - June 5, 2004, 07:35:42 PM EDT

Re: Nice sentiments. - (deSitter) - (26) - June 5, 2004, 10:00:35 PM EDT

reagan did neither, it was clinton and bush that did both -NT - (boxley) - (25) - June 5, 2004, 10:01:20 PM EDT

He created both trends - (deSitter) - June 5, 2004, 10:15:18 PM EDT

Try some arithmetic. - (mmoffitt) - (11) - June 6, 2004, 01:01:00 PM EDT

But, the Soviet Union came apart at the seams because of him - (a6l6e6x) - (10) - June 6, 2004, 05:14:48 PM EDT

Not true - (deSitter) - (9) - June 6, 2004, 10:35:12 PM EDT

Not that some of what you say about SU wasn't true... - (a6l6e6x) - (5) - June 7, 2004, 01:12:28 AM EDT

We outspent them. - (bepatient) - (4) - June 7, 2004, 01:16:20 AM EDT

And spent ourselves out of existence as well. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - June 7, 2004, 06:14:26 PM EDT

jury still out.. -NT - (bepatient) - June 7, 2004, 07:29:30 PM EDT

A convenient fiction - (Silverlock) - (1) - June 7, 2004, 08:40:32 PM EDT

RIght. - (bepatient) - June 7, 2004, 08:51:11 PM EDT

Blah, blah. blah - (Arkadiy) - (2) - June 7, 2004, 10:48:48 AM EDT

*applause* - (bepatient) - June 7, 2004, 10:55:05 AM EDT

Sorry bud, you weren't here - (deSitter) - June 7, 2004, 08:05:40 PM EDT

How quickly you forget - (ben_tilly) - (11) - June 7, 2004, 12:41:19 AM EDT

Nice try. - (bepatient) - (10) - June 7, 2004, 01:15:17 AM EDT

This is just false - (deSitter) - (4) - June 7, 2004, 01:27:41 AM EDT

Did you respond to the wrong post? - (ben_tilly) - (2) - June 7, 2004, 01:37:14 AM EDT

Oops - had both open - put this under beep "outspent" -NT - (deSitter) - June 7, 2004, 01:41:05 AM EDT

I gave you the pictures. -NT - (bepatient) - June 7, 2004, 01:52:52 AM EDT

It is a vast simplification. - (bepatient) - June 7, 2004, 01:59:33 AM EDT

I definitely made a mistake - (ben_tilly) - (2) - June 7, 2004, 01:34:54 AM EDT

Bounced around zero till the oil crisis - (bepatient) - June 7, 2004, 02:00:53 AM EDT

IIRC, we became a debtor nation in 1982. - (mmoffitt) - June 7, 2004, 06:17:21 PM EDT

Actually, trade deficits started before Carter. - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - June 7, 2004, 06:47:39 PM EDT

They bounced a bit early.... - (bepatient) - June 7, 2004, 07:28:14 PM EDT

Nice to see... - (bepatient) - June 6, 2004, 07:23:58 PM EDT

Gone but not forgotten - (orion) - (42) - June 5, 2004, 06:53:54 PM EDT

Re: Gone but not forgotten - (rcareaga) - (41) - June 5, 2004, 07:22:22 PM EDT

Take a breath ferchrissakes. - (bepatient) - (6) - June 5, 2004, 07:40:12 PM EDT

ignore the californicators - (boxley) - (2) - June 5, 2004, 09:55:04 PM EDT

I'll claim them for once - (deSitter) - (1) - June 5, 2004, 10:09:43 PM EDT

Not entirely so odd - (ben_tilly) - June 7, 2004, 12:47:43 AM EDT

missed memo - (rcareaga) - (2) - June 6, 2004, 09:39:08 PM EDT

Love you too, sweetheart. -NT - (bepatient) - (1) - June 6, 2004, 10:07:30 PM EDT

<smoochies> -NT - (rcareaga) - June 6, 2004, 10:29:23 PM EDT

"He expired drooling, incontinent and unsentient." - (mmoffitt) - (33) - June 6, 2004, 01:02:46 PM EDT

This is just plain rude and uncivil. - (Arkadiy) - (32) - June 7, 2004, 10:53:18 AM EDT

No gray. - (bepatient) - (4) - June 7, 2004, 10:58:21 AM EDT

rcareaga. Norm. Uncivil. - (Arkadiy) - (3) - June 7, 2004, 11:08:48 AM EDT

Norm? s/Norm/Mikey -NT - (hnick) - (2) - June 7, 2004, 11:17:23 AM EDT

The RC's reply was to Norm - (Arkadiy) - (1) - June 7, 2004, 11:38:41 AM EDT

I'd missed that. Got it. -NT - (hnick) - June 7, 2004, 11:40:22 AM EDT

what else would you expect from someone who thinks - (boxley) - (5) - June 7, 2004, 11:05:11 AM EDT

Stalin as agrarian reformer? - (rcareaga) - (4) - June 7, 2004, 12:15:12 PM EDT

refering to mikey, not you :0 -NT - (boxley) - (3) - June 7, 2004, 12:18:36 PM EDT

Challenge: Find me saying something nice about Stalin. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - June 7, 2004, 06:19:07 PM EDT

here - (boxley) - (1) - June 7, 2004, 06:40:47 PM EDT

Reading for Comprehension 101. - (mmoffitt) - June 7, 2004, 08:05:58 PM EDT

Sorry. I forgot. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - June 7, 2004, 06:20:06 PM EDT

IIRC... - (Another Scott) - June 7, 2004, 06:24:38 PM EDT

Maybe you're OK with having your country destroyed - (deSitter) - (18) - June 7, 2004, 08:06:45 PM EDT

*** KUDOS *** -NT - (mmoffitt) - June 7, 2004, 08:07:25 PM EDT

Among other things, it's being devoured by the lack of - (Arkadiy) - (16) - June 8, 2004, 10:30:33 AM EDT

Not true - (deSitter) - (1) - June 8, 2004, 10:35:32 AM EDT

A good standing reply to any post, I guess. - (Arkadiy) - June 8, 2004, 10:39:12 AM EDT

Well...since Reagan was a Republican.. - (bepatient) - (13) - June 8, 2004, 10:39:33 AM EDT

The facts speak for themselves - (deSitter) - (9) - June 8, 2004, 10:44:17 AM EDT

So that speaks for Clinton. - (bepatient) - (8) - June 8, 2004, 10:52:00 AM EDT

Worse than Reagan, tied with Bush 1 - (deSitter) - June 8, 2004, 10:55:58 AM EDT

From the UK... - (pwhysall) - (6) - June 8, 2004, 01:20:59 PM EDT

does margaret wank? - (boxley) - (5) - June 8, 2004, 02:09:39 PM EDT

We do? - (pwhysall) - (4) - June 8, 2004, 02:18:24 PM EDT

Johnson presided over civil rights - (boxley) - June 8, 2004, 02:39:10 PM EDT

ICLRPD - (jb4) - (2) - June 9, 2004, 11:54:43 AM EDT

Blasted checkboxes.....**mumble** -NT - (jb4) - (1) - June 9, 2004, 11:55:26 AM EDT

You see? LRPD defends itself; enforces polito-prohibition! -NT - (CRConrad) - June 10, 2004, 12:22:08 PM EDT

Who is underestimating it? - (mmoffitt) - June 8, 2004, 10:50:21 AM EDT

Re: Even current Democrats recognize this. - (a6l6e6x) - June 8, 2004, 04:49:56 PM EDT

Well, we agree on this one thing: - (jb4) - June 9, 2004, 11:52:04 AM EDT

He's probably with Princess, uh, David.. um, Princess Diane. -NT - (Meerkat) - June 5, 2004, 08:08:23 PM EDT

Shrub speaks - (rcareaga) - (8) - June 5, 2004, 08:15:53 PM EDT

Re: "TIE-ran-ee." - (a6l6e6x) - June 5, 2004, 09:04:06 PM EDT

Somebody needs a hug. - (marlowe) - (6) - June 9, 2004, 11:02:19 AM EDT

Image hosted by Angelfire. <- YUO = TEH SUKC. -NT - (pwhysall) - (5) - June 9, 2004, 12:07:12 PM EDT

Er, Peter... - (inthane-chan) - (4) - June 9, 2004, 01:02:37 PM EDT

You fail. - (pwhysall) - (3) - June 9, 2004, 01:06:09 PM EDT

Yup, we don't keep up with lusers. Nor do we care. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (2) - June 9, 2004, 02:48:51 PM EDT

Clearly you do :) -NT - (pwhysall) - (1) - June 9, 2004, 03:32:11 PM EDT

No. I just haven't classified you as a luser. Yet. -NT - (ben_tilly) - June 9, 2004, 04:29:23 PM EDT

I often quote him - (broomberg) - (7) - June 5, 2004, 09:42:20 PM EDT

well having met you I can understand the lying - (boxley) - June 5, 2004, 09:57:03 PM EDT

Borrowed from the Russ, of course - (Ashton) - (5) - June 6, 2004, 03:50:56 AM EDT

I disagree - (broomberg) - (4) - June 6, 2004, 10:53:59 PM EDT

He was an emotional moron - (deSitter) - (3) - June 6, 2004, 11:23:48 PM EDT

His first wife, - (Ashton) - (2) - June 7, 2004, 05:01:54 AM EDT

Re: His first wife, - (deSitter) - (1) - June 7, 2004, 04:46:24 AM EDT

Checkout my Edit, above _____:-\ufffd - (Ashton) - June 7, 2004, 05:11:52 AM EDT

Re: Gipper gone - (inthane-chan) - June 6, 2004, 01:36:16 AM EDT

The Good, they do die young... -NT - (hnick) - June 6, 2004, 10:00:55 AM EDT

Tis only today I twigged. Ifn u'd said Teflon, Ida known who - (dmarker) - (2) - June 7, 2004, 06:21:23 AM EDT

Perhaps a bit TOO kindly... - (jb4) - (1) - June 7, 2004, 01:17:21 PM EDT

..perhaps on the new Rationing Stamps? -NT - (Ashton) - June 7, 2004, 07:29:15 PM EDT

Damning w/ faint praise, are we? -NT - (jb4) - June 7, 2004, 12:58:20 PM EDT

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Erm, jb......that already IS a Lerpadism.
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