and while he still lives in his parents' house, he is subject to their rules.

All the bad behavior needed to be punished. The lying, the drinking, the rampage, the staying out too late, etc.

This is no different than my taking away a toy gun from my son for his misbehaving with it and selling it at a garage sale.

What would you do, send the kid to his room so he can play on the PS2 for hours? This way he learns a lesson.

Ah for the good old days when spanking was a solution for every discipline problem. Get a big old paddle with holes in it and hit really hard. If the behavior repeats, hit harder. Schools used to do this as well and didn't have the discipline problems they have today. Oh well, let's just spoil the kid and give him even more games to play with. Send him to his room so he can play some more. Ground him to stay at home, where his PS2 is. Yeah, that'll teach him. Maybe he can find the time to finish GTA3 for his punishment? ;)

but not anymore. Nor did I say I did it.

I'm currently using the time outs, and taking away of privileges of my son. Modern society prohibts me from spanking. I also take things way from him when he misbehaves as another punishment.

Know what? These things do not work, nor do they work for modern children. So either we go back to the basics of spanking, or we find something new that works. If not, we are doing nothing but raising spoiled brats.

I have yet to hear a solution from you, Mr. Know-It-all.

is to have a Drill Sargent from the Military work as a Vice-Principal and punish the children in a military style. Put them on KP duty, have them march around with backpacks on, do push-ups and sit-ups, etc.

More creative than anything Pathetic Peter ever suggested. I still wait for his response. Corporal Punishment may have been harsh, but it worked. No school-shootings either back then.

Yes I was beaten on knuckles with rulers by Nuns, the Vice Pricipal had a paddle. After these things happened, I straightened up, and no longer was punished because I did not act up anymore.