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New Re: My guess...
Nightowl doesn't like the thread in Politics about how religion is evil and should be destroyed.


I don't like it either, but for completely different reasons.


Partly right, Ben. But there's so much more, and maybe people just don't see it like I am.

The torture thread, for example. Everyone had to argue who started torture, who taught it to whom, it got downright volatile, to me, anyway. Who cares where it came from, it happened, and it happened at the hands of US soldiers, why does that reflect on any other country?

The thread about Rumsfeld and the panel and all, it turned into so much more than a political debate, it almost sounded "personal" between members of the IWT community. I guess there's nothing wrong with that, but it seemed so sad to me that it came to that.

Yes, the religion thread, and even the Iraq thread of genocide. Killing everyone doesn't solve anything. That bothers me a lot, that anyone here would even begin to THINK about advocating that kind of massacre. I just wouldn't have seen it in anyone's hearts here, not even the WORST ones.

All I know is, it's gotten real gloomy in here, real dark, real sad, real volatile, and honestly, downright depressing.

Yes, I know I can refrain from reading it, but that's not my point. I believe I've made my point, or at least I hope so.

And for Broomberg who seems to think I wanted everyone to agree, well I never said that, and I certainly never thought that. I just thought we could debate things with a little less hate, venom and viciousness.

So put words in my mouth if you want, but I didn't say we should all be the same, all think the same or all do the same. What a boring place IWT would be if we were.

Nightowl >8#




"AHHHHH! Relatives coming out of the woodwork!!!!!!"
New Look to your self
All I know is, it's gotten real gloomy in here, real dark, real sad, real volatile, and honestly, downright depressing.


If you don't like our stark honesty, you should stay out of the more ... volatile forums.

I'll say this once. The people here are frighteningly honest. All that disagree with me, of course, are wrong. Note the difference. Just cause they are wrong doesn't make them dishonest. I recognize that. So should you. (I'll flame you later)
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It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand.
Mike Royko
New Never once
did I say they were dishonest.

More trying to put words in my mouth that weren't there and weren't said.

Nightowl >8#



"AHHHHH! Relatives coming out of the woodwork!!!!!!"
New I've never put a word in your mouth.
Ever. I'll thank you not to spread that lie. I also never said you thought we were dishonest. Try reading it again. If you need help, I can point you to the dictionary references for sarcasm and such.
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It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand.
Mike Royko
New I'll clarify then.
Silverlock wrote:>>Just cause they are wrong doesn't make them dishonest. I recognize that. So should you.<<

This to me, implied that you thought I didn't recognize that they were honest. I didn't even say that they were wrong, so if you didn't mean it that way, no problem.

Nightowl >8#




"AHHHHH! Relatives coming out of the woodwork!!!!!!"
New Hmm..
I look at it from that point of view and suddenly, understanding smacks my forehead. My deepest apologies.

accepted?

(I'll still rip you when I feel you deserve it)*

*Wich will, most likely, be often.
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It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand.
Mike Royko
New Accepted. :)
And I'll do my best not to deserve it. :)

Nightowl >8#



"AHHHHH! Relatives coming out of the woodwork!!!!!!"
     At the risk of getting flamed - (Nightowl) - (50)
         Mommy mommy - (broomberg) - (17)
             I see a clear difference - (Nightowl) - (16)
                 Interesting. I was close to posting praise for the tone of - (dmarker) - (15)
                     The way I see it... - (inthane-chan) - (14)
                         Woo... - (admin) - (13)
                             Yup. - (inthane-chan) - (9)
                                 He loses focus because "He's Got LPRD Davis Eyes." HTH! -NT - (Another Scott)
                                 Hmmm... - (admin) - (7)
                                     You don't do it very often. - (inthane-chan) - (6)
                                         He doesn't 'flame' - (Ashton)
                                         Examples? -NT - (admin) - (4)
                                             Great, now I have to find one. :) - (inthane-chan) - (3)
                                                 Re: Great, now I have to find one. :) - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                                                     Ah, I see now... - (admin)
                                                     Holy Bovine-Scat. - (folkert)
                             Oh thank you so very much. - (Silverlock) - (2)
                                 Wrong picture - (lincoln) - (1)
                                     IFS - (Silverlock)
         i'Twould be ironic indeed to flame you for an - (Ashton) - (12)
             My guess... - (ben_tilly) - (9)
                 Re: My guess... - (Nightowl) - (6)
                     Look to your self - (Silverlock) - (5)
                         Never once - (Nightowl) - (4)
                             I've never put a word in your mouth. - (Silverlock) - (3)
                                 I'll clarify then. - (Nightowl) - (2)
                                     Hmm.. - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                         Accepted. :) - (Nightowl)
                 That is why... - (n3jja) - (1)
                     I just go month to month, but same idea -NT - (drewk)
             Well, maybe it seems worse to me - (Nightowl) - (1)
                 'Religion' is "crazy Aunt Martha in the corner" - (Ashton)
         You're too new here... - (jb4) - (1)
             Thanks JB. - (Nightowl)
         Flame on. - (Silverlock) - (3)
             Re: Flame on. - (Nightowl) - (2)
                 I believe I've struck a nerve. -NT - (Silverlock) - (1)
                     Not at all - (Nightowl)
         I think you're overreacting in this case. - (Another Scott) - (3)
             you could be right - (Nightowl) - (2)
                 One kind suggestion ... - (dmarker) - (1)
                     Re: One kind suggestion ... - (Nightowl)
         Oh, for FUCK's sake. (new thread) - (pwhysall)
         Read my Yahoo group for feedback - (orion) - (7)
             Well, that was pointless. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 It does have benefits - (orion)
             Shades of: Read me in MY posts here... - (folkert) - (4)
                 Ok let me offer you a choice - (orion) - (3)
                     'twas merely a statement of - (folkert) - (1)
                         Michel Merlin - (orion)
                     Just letting you know, Norman, - (Nightowl)

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