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Post #153,740 by admin 5/4/04 2:34:17 PM Reply	Wasn't going to get into this, but... Do you have any actual complaints, or are you just going to keep sniping at Java without backing anything up? Yes, Java has its problems, but I have a real issue with people who gripe out of ignorance. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #153,743 by ben_tilly 5/4/04 2:39:23 PM Reply	To me "J2EE" is a bigger alarm bell than "Java" Not that I really care about either. Know why you picked it, and have it be a rationale that makes sense, then get on with your life. I know why I haven't picked it, and that is enough for me. My reasons aren't generally applicable. Cheers, Ben To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Post #153,745 by admin 5/4/04 2:42:25 PM Reply	I'm more irritated by constant non-specific carping. Gets under my skin. I don't really care for J2EE that much either, but it's better than many alternatives if you use something like [link\|http://www.springframework.org\|Spring] to mitigate the inanities. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #153,770 by pwhysall 5/4/04 6:10:48 PM Reply	From what I hear... ...J2EE is quite simply the worst enterprise-scale application server environment, apart from all the others. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #153,950 by tablizer 5/5/04 9:52:18 PM Reply	What exactly does "enterprise" mean? [link\|http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?EnterpriseApplication\|http://www.c2.com/cg...rpriseApplication] ________________ oop.ismad.com
Post #153,978 by pwhysall 5/6/04 1:55:42 AM Reply	Multiple servers/sites/100+ GB of data/etc. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #154,110 by tablizer 5/6/04 3:39:23 PM Reply	That could be a MS-Access app that ties into a big oracle DB ________________ oop.ismad.com
Post #154,121 by pwhysall 5/6/04 5:17:02 PM Reply	True. But Oracle's all about Java these days. Funny, that. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #154,140 by boxley 5/6/04 6:29:56 PM Reply	runs about as well as acess too attempting to explain profiling doesn't require one to take a position for or against it any more than attempting to explain gravity requires one to be for or against gravity. Walter Williams questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #154,182 by pwhysall 5/7/04 2:00:25 AM Reply	Works For Us(TM) Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]

Geronimo............ - (folkert) - (11) - May 4, 2004, 01:43:57 PM EDT

What an apt name. - (mmoffitt) - (10) - May 4, 2004, 02:26:33 PM EDT

Wasn't going to get into this, but... - (admin) - (9) - May 4, 2004, 02:34:17 PM EDT

To me "J2EE" is a bigger alarm bell than "Java" - (ben_tilly) - (8) - May 4, 2004, 02:39:23 PM EDT

I'm more irritated by constant non-specific carping. - (admin) - (7) - May 4, 2004, 02:42:25 PM EDT

From what I hear... - (pwhysall) - (6) - May 4, 2004, 06:10:48 PM EDT

What exactly does "enterprise" mean? - (tablizer) - (5) - May 5, 2004, 09:52:18 PM EDT

Multiple servers/sites/100+ GB of data/etc. -NT - (pwhysall) - (4) - May 6, 2004, 01:55:42 AM EDT

That could be a MS-Access app that ties into a big oracle DB -NT - (tablizer) - (3) - May 6, 2004, 03:39:23 PM EDT

True. - (pwhysall) - (2) - May 6, 2004, 05:17:02 PM EDT

runs about as well as acess too -NT - (boxley) - (1) - May 6, 2004, 06:29:56 PM EDT

Works For Us(TM) -NT - (pwhysall) - May 7, 2004, 02:00:25 AM EDT

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