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New The Independent in the UK
[link|http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/story.jsp?story=515021|Here]:

In the small community of North Korean defectors in Seoul, a story is circulating that Kim Jong Il, the North's leader, narrowly avoided an assassination attempt by changing his schedule at the last moment. According to the rumours, residents of Ryongchon were not informed of his new schedule. Some 700 children were lined up on the platform to wave flags in greeting but were caught in a blast timed to kill him as his train went past.

Jang Song Gun, an official in charge of rescue efforts, said that the blasts occurred at noon after an electricity pole was knocked down when an oil wagon collided with two other wagons loaded with ammonium nitrate fertiliser. The fire caused by the short circuit ignited the oil wagon and the chemicals as the trucks were being shunted.


I don't buy the Rube Goldberg explanation in the 2nd quoted paragraph. The Timothy McVeigh fuel-oil + ammonium nitrate explosive involved mixing the two together, not just having them in proximity. It just feels likely to me that this was a deliberate act, and having Kim pass through there hours before just reinforces that feeling for me.

Of course, the truth will likely never be known.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Thanks
Not doubting the theorizing, just looking for a source.
Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain.
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And then one day you find ten years have got behind you.
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New I tend to agree - it seems no way they could know that ...

the accident happened the way they claim - all the witnesses & participants were incinerated at the site so how is it possible for them to come up with a 'detailed' reason as to the cause so quickly (could have held a seance I guess :-)

One possibility being put forward here is that the change in schedules for Kim's train going through disrupted the ricketty N Korea rail system such that in trying to get schedules back to normal, there was a train collision. This is feasible I guess but that crater sure looks mighty big for a train crash no matter what they were carrying. Train blasts in the US (LPG) have typically flattened surrounding buildings but AFAIK haven't dug a massive crater like this one.

Doug M




New Correct me if I'm wrong...
...but generally, you don't get a crater unless a)the bomb is honkin' GINORMOUS, or b)the bomb is buried under the earth, or is otherwise propelled into the ground before exploding, I.E., a bomb delivered with a contact fuse.
Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain.
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today.
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you.
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
New CNN report from early in the Iraq war, and Defense Link.
[link|http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0303/28/se.02.html|Here]:

KEVIN SITES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Carol. I am actually standing in what we believed to be a 500-pound bomb crater. As you've seen us all week, we've been reporting from the rooftop of the building we rented in Chamchamal. Now we are actually reporting from the Iraqi position on the hillside that coalition forces hit so fiercely just two days ago.

We hiked up here today with our videophone gear and we got a chance to look around this command bunker and it is just literally obliterated. I don't have an ISB that reaches far enough down into this crater but just to give you an idea of the size, it's probably about 25 feet in circumference and about 15 feet deep. The explosion just must have been massive. And the area surrounding it has also just been blown to bits.


Emphasis added.

[link|http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Jun1996/960626-N-00000-004.html|Defense Link] story on Dhahran, SA (Khobar Towers) bombing. The picture looks similar to the NK photo, but I would estimate it's only ~ half as deep and covers a much smaller area. The Khobar bomb was a single tanker truck supposedly filled with ammonium nitrate and fuel oil.

The NK exposion was big.

Regards,
Scott.
New Yeah, and those probably have a contact fuse...
...meaning they probably get a foot or two into the earth itself before going boom.

Hell, even Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't leave a crater.
Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain.
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today.
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you.
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
     Ryongchon, NK explosion crater (34 kB .jpg) - (Another Scott) - (13)
         Conspiracy theories. - (inthane-chan) - (7)
             Re: Conspiracy theories. - (JayMehaffey)
             The Independent in the UK - (Another Scott) - (5)
                 Thanks - (inthane-chan)
                 I tend to agree - it seems no way they could know that ... - (dmarker) - (3)
                     Correct me if I'm wrong... - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                         CNN report from early in the Iraq war, and Defense Link. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                             Yeah, and those probably have a contact fuse... - (inthane-chan)
         It has happened before - (broomberg) - (4)
             Thanks for the link. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                 Another scary part of my past - (broomberg) - (2)
                     A fan of Sangamon's Principle, eh? -NT - (inthane-chan)
                     I used to know a guy who's dad . . - (Andrew Grygus)

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