Purpose of Shapes

Post #152,089 by JimWeirich 4/21/04 2:14:01 PM Reply	Purpose of Shapes Topmind: It is not so much about being "exciting", but many of the principles of shapes just don't extrapolate to the real world (at least as I see it). The purpose of the Shapes examples is to demonstrate implementation techniques for dynamic / runtime polymorphism. It is well suited for such a purpose. It is not a model to be extrapolated to all OO architectures. Topmind: A more interesting toy example would be: [link\|http://www.geocities...change.htm#people\|http://www.geocities...change.htm#people] []* Your Employee rant (I didn't find any actual example) would be poorly suited to my purposes. How would including issues not addressed by dynamic polymorphism improve the illustration of the implementation of dynamic polymorphism. It would just cloud the issue. However, regarding your rants: if you ever decide to expand that People-Type thought experiment into a real example (real and complete working code), then let me know. I would love to compare. -- -- Jim Weirich jim@weirichhouse.org [link\|http://onestepback.org\|http://onestepback.org] --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth (in a memo to Peter van Emde Boas)
Post #152,090 by boxley 4/21/04 2:21:08 PM Reply	sniggle :-) working code "You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #152,111 by tablizer 4/21/04 5:18:59 PM 4/21/04 5:49:55 PM Reply	derth of more applicable examples How would including issues not addressed by dynamic polymorphism improve the illustration of the implementation of dynamic polymorphism. It would just cloud the issue. I was only addressing the practicality of the examples, not the demonstration of dynamic polymorphism. My general complaint is a derth of more applicable examples. Shapes, animals, stacks, and device drivers can only take one so far. However, regarding your rants: if you ever decide to expand that People-Type thought experiment into a real example (real and complete working code), then let me know. I would love to compare. I haven't requested working code from OO'ers for that. Even a general skeleton would be a start. We can flesh out more later. Working OO code is often too bloated for my tastes anyhow. BTW, I have not found a satisfactory p/r solution to the "employee types" problem either. It is just that OO is not an improvement. ________________ oop.ismad.com Edited by tablizer April 21, 2004, 05:49:55 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #152,419 by JimWeirich 4/23/04 7:56:30 PM Reply	Re: derth of more applicable examples TM: I was only addressing the practicality of the examples, not the demonstration of dynamic polymorphism. My general complaint is a derth of more applicable examples. Shapes, animals, stacks, and device drivers can only take one so far. Well, it is apparent that you think you people-type example has legs. If so, make a real example out of it. Specify some requirements so some code can be written. Shoot, if you don't want to write the p/r code, I'll do it for you. If not, its time to take down that page because it is obvious that you are merely arguing against a strawman (i.e. OO design that only the inexperienced would propose). TM: I haven't requested working code from OO'ers for that. [...] That's misleading. You only ask for sketches ("It can either be real code or pseudo-code." [link\|http://www.geocities.com/tablizer/challeng.htm\|http://www.geocities...izer/challeng.htm]), but then you critisize the examples for omitting code ("The OOP version has simply put many of the details somewhere else." [link\|http://www.geocities.com/tablizer/chal01.htm\|http://www.geocities...blizer/chal01.htm]). That's why I'm only interested in working code. No hand-waving need apply. -- -- Jim Weirich jim@weirichhouse.org [link\|http://onestepback.org\|http://onestepback.org] --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth (in a memo to Peter van Emde Boas)
Post #152,114 by ben_tilly 4/21/04 6:40:31 PM Reply	Your URL is broken From the breakage, I wonder if Scott was playing around with the URL code and forgot that while you truncate what you show, you don't truncate the actual URL... Cheers, Ben To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Post #152,129 by admin 4/21/04 9:08:40 PM Reply	Nope. That's what he posted. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #152,162 by JimWeirich 4/21/04 10:11:21 PM Reply	Re: Your URL is broken I just cut and pasted text from the original article. The forum software decided to try to make it into a link. The link is correct in the original article. -- -- Jim Weirich jim@weirichhouse.org [link\|http://onestepback.org\|http://onestepback.org] --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth (in a memo to Peter van Emde Boas)
Post #152,164 by Another Scott 4/21/04 10:22:29 PM Reply	Very long URLs have ellipsis inserted in the URL. (new thread) Created as new thread #152163 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=152163\|Very long URLs have ellipsis inserted in the URL.]

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