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New In a word: Yes
It would be foolish not to. Today I found out that the two suspects arrested in Texas were from Trenton, NJ. A third person from Trenton has been detained and has cashed checks for around $100,000. This according to a story in todays Wall Street Journal.

This is not to say that there is absolutely a connection but either someone is trying to frame the terrorists or this is just more evidence of the unGodly evil that Islamic terrorists are proud of. I'm sure bin Laden honors whoever has committed such murderous deeds.
New Please watch your terms.
unGodly ?

Isn't it by now crystal clear that, were it not for all these groups running around claiming
Mine's *Bigger* !!

.. we wouldn't have this Religious War #12,311 right now?

The Godly are interminably claiming Exclusive Marketing Rights to this same-supposedly
Godspectre

..and Each Group claims: all the Others are Wrong.

So it is very much a Godly #12,311 just like #12,310 and #12,309 and .. back to born-again Alley Oop. No?





A.
New So you think these acts were Godly?
Is that what you are getting at?!

I'll stand by my terminology and remind you that I am not claiming that "my" God is bigger than yours, theirs or anyone else's. I am stating that these terrorist acts are unGodly, by any religious definitions. Yes, these Islamic Extremists are using their Koran to find justification in God's name for such murder but the rest of the world (religious and otherwise) has condemned these horrific acts as brutal, savage and degrading to Islam.

Just because a small subset of religious maniacs claim that murder is a Godly act doesn't mean that all religious people think that way. So, I'll stick by my claim that these murders were not a Godly act, even if it upsets you. You seem to think we ought to throw out all religious texts just because of a few bad apples? This is not really a religious war but rather a power struggle that uses religion to motivate impoverished Islamic zealots.

New After x000 years: it's a pattern.
First Man creates the concept of God, then starts the personalizing, embellishing, *organizing* - naturally into competition / disagreement / WAR.

Ever thus. Find a new way to commune with the Mystery or: War #13,000 may be the Last. No non-radioactive non-mutated 'faithful' left: to 'adore' these Loving Gods\ufffd (who ever got the idea that an Omnipotent needs.. wants.. Anything! - especially 'adoration' from a fatally flawed alpha specimen species?)

However in Fact the Universe works: it has little or nothing to do with these patently Man-Made 'Gods', the setting up of huge Corporations/Power over masses and the accumulation of 'believers' in This version or That version.

Child abuse: Daddy in the sky will get you a bike. If you're good to Her.


{sheesh}
New Agreed, but not all wars are religious in nature.
I'm not sure what we are arguing about but I think it's religions relationship to wars. WWI and WWII were non-religious in nature, would you agree? The American Civil war was also non-religious.

So I guess some wars can be blamed on religion and others can be blamed on the struggle for power, although "power" wars are often disguised with a "righteous" religious cloak.






New Not so overtly as this one, perhaps
But God is ever on Our Side, in each one (each side too!). Armies have Chaplains. The businessmen left behind, unfortunately unable to er serve - get those lumps in throats as the martyrs return inert. (We just don't *call* them Martyrs, but treat the bodies identically.
Our propaganda == Islam's propaganda.)

[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=15301|Don Richards' little Twain find]

Don't you get it yet? The conditioning starts in the crib, and before the first cap-pistol. And Twain wasn't able to publish his little homily - in US and while alive. Posthumous. Accident... that we ever even saw it.

(Check out Karstens 'find' too -in Open Forum re Army subsidizing video 'training' games) Rest case.

It's ~ about sheep grazing. Docilely.



A.
     Should we suspect a connection between anthrax and 9/11? - (Another Scott) - (14)
         Choice of targets. - (Arkadiy) - (2)
             American media vs American Media? - (SpiceWare) - (1)
                 That was a good joke... - (Arkadiy)
         Shouldn't we presume a mind(s) as devious as anyone's here? - (Ashton) - (4)
             And would there have been *any* unpleasant letter sent... - (Meerkat) - (3)
                 Any day now.. expecting them to mention - (Ashton) - (2)
                     Phlogiston? - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                         Nah, it's a nickname - (Ashton)
         In a word: Yes - (brettj) - (5)
             Please watch your terms. - (Ashton) - (4)
                 So you think these acts were Godly? - (brettj) - (3)
                     After x000 years: it's a pattern. - (Ashton) - (2)
                         Agreed, but not all wars are religious in nature. - (brettj) - (1)
                             Not so overtly as this one, perhaps - (Ashton)

...introduce an "if", and you're down the slippery slope. You add "for", and it's an avalanche. Then the "while" falls on you, and you're buried.
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