to help us deal with the myriad and plethora of fscked-up garbage they foist on us.

Can now go back to hiding behind Zone Alarm. Also I really miss not having my Wi-Fi firewall (it is on a side lan until I get my new adsl link activated).

What really pisses me off about such MS foibles is that as much as I try to investigate & keep on top of their security peculiarities, I am not able to do so. The help you have provided helps explain why orgs such as Iwethey are so valuable - we can all try to help each other. Part of my job as an architect is to advise on security matters (mostly the overall architecture) but as with most medium sized companies, am expected to be able to advise our network guys on trends etc:.

Last Friday I attended a seminar by Enterasys on networks of the future. Very interesting stuff. Mainly to do with the marriage of IDS discovery with automatic network management & adjustmnt.

Anyway - thanks

Doug Marker