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New Well a
"Ok, Ok, we're sorrrrrry, we won't hit Bobby in the head with a shovel anymore" (while they have a 1X4 behind their back).

Sort of thing, I take it.

Funny thing. Ballmer didn't mention how they'd accomplish the "removal" of IE, which, as I recall, he has said, and there is testimony to the fact, that its "impossible" to remove now that its "integrated?"

Addison
New Removal of IE
Maybe Microsoft is trying to put the [link|http://www.98lite.net|98Lite] people out of business by including a utility with the latest Windows that does the same thing? :)

Just think, who will need to buy [link|http://www.98lite.net|98Lite] if the ability to remove IE and other junk is built right into Windows? FBOG!

"I can see if I want anything done right around here, I'll have to do it myself!"Moe Howard
New Watch it! fella - that's *my* 98lite yer dissin
And My IE IS removed of course - but there's more that Shane Brooks has done than that. In er 'modularizing' some of the other detritus, you can add it in effortlessly (for that 5 min/ year you might want it) and also dejunks many directories of their referrer links and other Eye-Arsenic you thought.. would be restored if you got them out via DOS.

Besides - last thing BallyCo would want to legitimize by stealin and assimilatin - would have to be: the mere *IDEA* that you Could eliminate the Shill Links effortlessly.


A.
New The Register doesn't have kind words for MSFT
Did you think they would?! :)

[link|http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/20327.html|
MS surrenders! IE not integrated with WinXP after all]

By John Lettice
Posted: 11/07/2001 at 21:55 GMT
....
And it'll apply to previous operating systems, not that previous operating systems will survive much beyond December, if Redmond has its way. Today's statement essentially (and cynically) splits Internet Explorer out from Windows again. Exquisitely, you'll recall, the very appeals court that Microsoft is now doing obeisance to is the one that ruled that Microsoft did have the right to integrate IE with Windows. If Microsoft hadn't insisted that it could do this very thing, the DoJ antitrust action might very well not have hit it with quite the enraged velocity it did. This is a very, very weird legal action, and it's getting weirder.
New Read the release carefully
From the Reg article:

Consumers will be able to use the Add-Remove Programs feature in Windows XP to remove end-user access to the Internet Explorer components of the operating system.

(Emphasis mine.)

Doesn't say it'll take it out. Just that it'll remove end-user access to it. I imagine the OS and all apps will still be able to access it.
This is my sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
New My understanding is...
...that the warm, steaming heap that is IE is not "removed"; that all the OEMs can do now is exactly what users can do if they had one iota of grey matter functioning: Remove the Insecure Exposer icon from the desktop. The "integrated" Insecure Exposer is still there, just waiting for activation by your friendly neighborhood Trojan (horse).
jb4

(Resistance is not futile...)
     Microsoft tosses a bone, will change startup, allow removal - (addison) - (18)
         Heh. - (admin) - (13)
             Fear - the only aphrodisiac for Barbarians - (Ashton) - (4)
                 Stop that Microsoft Barbarians stuff - (mhuber) - (3)
                     ObMP: Stop it! Stop it! This is getting ENTIRELY TOO SILLY! -NT - (addison) - (1)
                         Sorry: did you pay for argument? or just contradiction. -NT - (Ashton)
                     My apologies to Genghis, Attila, Beast of Belsen too.. :[ -NT - (Ashton)
             Well a - (addison) - (5)
                 Removal of IE - (orion) - (1)
                     Watch it! fella - that's *my* 98lite yer dissin - (Ashton)
                 The Register doesn't have kind words for MSFT - (brettj) - (1)
                     Read the release carefully - (drewk)
                 My understanding is... - (jb4)
             Does it get them off the hook though? - (brettj) - (1)
                 No. - (addison)
         CNN's version: MSFT changes the rules - (brettj)
         Effectively Meaningless - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
             We may hope.. that the court sees it, as succinctly. -NT - (Ashton)
         Looks like New Mexico is the reason. - (a6l6e6x)

There might be poisonous gnomes hiding behind the furniture and I can't take that chance.
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