Iraqi blogger weighs in on al Sadr uprising

Post #150,650 by marlowe 4/9/04 1:03:00 PM Reply	Iraqi blogger weighs in on al Sadr uprising [link\|http://healingiraq.blogspot.com/archives/2004_04_01_healingiraq_archive.html#108130335028007455\|He doesn't care for it] Excerpt: The Grand Ayatollah Ali Al-Sistani issued a fatwa late Wednesday to "resolve the latest developments in Iraq in a peaceful manner" in order to prevent anarchy and bloodshed. "We condemn the behaviour of occupation forces in dealing with the current events, and we also condemn any trespass against public and private property, or any other conduct that may disrupt security and obstruct Iraqis from their jobs in serving the people". Sistani also called upon political parties to work together in an effective manner to put an end to the "tragedy". Why did he wait so long before issuing this fatwa? Was it to gauge coalition and public reaction? Was it to prove that only he has the last word in clearing up the mess? The fatwa comes after 5 days of violence and unrest in several Shi'ite cities in southern Iraq, and while it is true that traditionally a fatwa from a living Grand Ayatollah is binding to his followers, that does not however apply to Al-Sadr's supporters who point out the more radical Grand Ayatollah Kadhim Al-Ha'eri (Iraqi exile Shia cleric operating from Meshed, Iran) as their spiritual leader, despite Al-Sadr's clumsy announcement two days ago that he will follow whatever Sistani and the Hawza in Najaf chooses for him, which I think is more probably a cry for help from the elders in Najaf. I say: Al Sadr is another Saddam wannabe. He murdered another cleric, then started an uprising on the eve of palnned independence for Iraq, then tried to play Gandhi. Most Shia are against him, and the US are after him. His future's not looking too bright. [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/#20040409\|Home link] ---------------------------------------------------------------- DEAL WITH IT. Americans: a pack, not a herd. Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas? [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
Post #150,685 by rcareaga 4/9/04 6:17:07 PM Reply	marlowe's tactical doctrine Shock and jive.
Post #150,722 by tuberculosis 4/10/04 2:39:57 PM Reply	And another one [link\|http://www.dear_raed.blogspot.com/2004_04_01_dear_raed_archive.html#108125393279186418\|http://www.dear_raed...08125393279186418] You have to be careful about what you say about al-Sadir. Their hands reach every where and you don't want to be on their shit list. Every body, even the GC is very careful how they formulate their sentences and how they describe Sadir's Militias. They are thugs, thugs thugs. There you have it. I was listening to a representative of al-sadir on TV saying that the officers at police stations come to offer their help and swear allegiance. Habibi, if they don't they will get killed and their police station "liberated". Have we forgotten the threat al-Sadir issued that Iraqi security forces should not attack their revolutionary brothers, or they will have to suffer the consequences. Dear US administration, Welcome to the next level. Please don't act surprised and what sort of timing is that: planning to go on a huge attack on the west of Iraq and provoking a group you know very well (I pray to god you knew) that they are trouble makers. Oh and before I forget.........Help please. ---------- Withdrawal on June 30? Really? I don't see it at all. Quagmire. Democracies are not well-run nor long-preserved with secrecy and lies. --Walter Cronkite
Post #150,724 by Another Scott 4/10/04 4:10:25 PM Reply	June 30 isn't withdrawal date. It's the date to hand over (some sort of) sovereignty to an Iraqi administration. The troops aren't leaving in 82 days. [link\|http://www.cpa-iraq.org/pressreleases/20040406_rummy_security.html\|Rumsfeld] from April 6: Washington -- The turnover of political sovereignty in Iraq on June 30 is not to be confused with coalition forces turning over responsibility for security then, says Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. "The deadline applies to political governance of the country. It does not apply to the security responsibility," Rumsfeld pointed out. "There is no plan to change the security situation on June 30th. The only thing that changes is ... the political situation, as to where sovereignty resides," he said, adding that he had "not seen anything that would suggest that that date should be extended." The US is going to have a military presence there for quite a while.... Cheers, Scott.
Post #150,727 by tuberculosis 4/10/04 7:44:53 PM Reply	OK, but in order to "hand something over" you have to have it in hand. Sure, they can have a ceremony and fire a cannon, but while the bull is out there raging, you're not doing them any favors by handing them the red flag. Democracies are not well-run nor long-preserved with secrecy and lies. --Walter Cronkite
Post #150,729 by Simon_Jester 4/10/04 7:58:03 PM Reply	IE: June 30th is when we install our puppets.
Post #150,730 by Another Scott 4/10/04 8:38:04 PM Reply	I thought that was 7/30/2003. :-/ [link\|http://www.cpa-iraq.org/government.html\|http://www.cpa-iraq.org/government.html] Cheers, Scott.
Post #150,785 by a6l6e6x 4/11/04 4:56:07 PM Reply	But, this is the improved Ver 2.0. :) Alex Sacred cows make the best hamburger. --Mark Twain

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