As the article says,

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Post #149,466

by Arkadiy

3/31/04 9:03:13 AM

As the article says,

"Those class and resource loading strategies must be the most poorly documented and least specified area of J2SE."

Since I only deal with Java applications and applets, I normally don't encounter any of the problems described. But, it was an entertaining read. Thank you.

--

Less Is More. In my book, About Face, I introduce over 50 powerful design axioms. This is one of them.

--Alan Cooper. The Inmates Are Running the Asylum

Java skills gap - (bluke) - (59) - March 23, 2004, 08:31:25 AM EST

Re: Java skills gap - (deSitter) - (10) - March 23, 2004, 08:38:59 AM EST

Believe me I know - (bluke) - (9) - March 23, 2004, 08:48:07 AM EST

Re: Believe me I know - (deSitter) - (8) - March 23, 2004, 08:52:49 AM EST

Makes sense, so it won't happen. -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 23, 2004, 09:13:33 AM EST

Not so easy to find a savvy person either - (bluke) - (6) - March 23, 2004, 09:14:46 AM EST

Re: Not so easy to find a savvy person either - (deSitter) - (5) - March 23, 2004, 09:30:06 AM EST

Because HR screens resumes - (bluke) - (4) - March 23, 2004, 09:38:55 AM EST

Definitely agree on that last point. - (admin) - (3) - March 23, 2004, 09:40:27 AM EST

The best thing I ever did was learn Smalltalk - (bluke) - (2) - March 23, 2004, 09:49:15 AM EST

I dont know, but as long as they bathe regular I dont mind - (boxley) - March 23, 2004, 09:56:47 AM EST

Great interview question: - (admin) - March 23, 2004, 11:42:34 AM EST

I am afraid there is even more - (Arkadiy) - (45) - March 23, 2004, 10:35:42 AM EST

This is why I am not a big fan of IDE's - (bluke) - (44) - March 23, 2004, 11:41:51 AM EST

Disagree slightly. - (mmoffitt) - (43) - March 23, 2004, 11:53:29 AM EST

GUI IDEs just get in my way - (admin) - (1) - March 23, 2004, 12:11:16 PM EST

I hate doing UI's. - (mmoffitt) - March 23, 2004, 01:05:31 PM EST

Intelij is a perfect example - (bluke) - (40) - March 23, 2004, 03:26:34 PM EST

Funny, I've found Java itself "awful" :-) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (39) - March 23, 2004, 03:43:08 PM EST

It is, but IntelliJ makes it less miserable -NT - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 05:55:06 AM EDT

It all depends on where you are coming from - (bluke) - (37) - March 24, 2004, 03:38:57 AM EST

Re: It all depends on where you are coming from - (deSitter) - (36) - March 24, 2004, 03:51:23 AM EST

Two letters: GC - (Arkadiy) - (35) - March 24, 2004, 02:54:43 PM EST

So? - (deSitter) - (30) - March 24, 2004, 05:49:06 PM EST

GC is totally worth it and can be *more* efficient - (tuberculosis) - (29) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:02:19 AM EDT

Ok I'll accept that - (deSitter) - March 24, 2004, 08:22:36 PM EST

I like ObjectiveC's memory management. -NT - (admin) - (2) - March 24, 2004, 08:48:57 PM EST

Its sort of NGC - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:03:11 AM EDT

Kinda tedious, but not really. - (admin) - March 24, 2004, 10:40:18 PM EST

Reigning in the beast - (jb4) - (24) - March 25, 2004, 06:04:35 PM EST

Whoa - (deSitter) - (6) - March 25, 2004, 06:13:44 PM EST

"Partially persistant" things happen all of the time - (ben_tilly) - (5) - March 25, 2004, 09:05:41 PM EST

I am confused totally - (boxley) - (4) - March 25, 2004, 10:02:45 PM EST

Its the heap - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:10:30 AM EDT

You can't use the stack for a lot of things - (ben_tilly) - (2) - March 26, 2004, 01:06:08 AM EST

Re: You can't use the stack for a lot of things - (deSitter) - (1) - March 26, 2004, 01:29:41 AM EST

A good design is a good design... -NT - (ben_tilly) - March 26, 2004, 02:04:32 AM EST

Ah, I see... - (admin) - (3) - March 25, 2004, 06:19:27 PM EST

OK, OK,...Fair enough - (jb4) - (2) - March 25, 2004, 06:54:00 PM EST

The world is full of less-than-adequate programmers - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:10:32 AM EDT

And plain ol' automation is the mechanism - (FuManChu) - March 26, 2004, 03:25:05 PM EST

Don't get it. - (Arkadiy) - (7) - March 25, 2004, 07:34:36 PM EST

Circular references and Class GC - (tuberculosis) - (6) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:10:35 AM EDT

Still don't get it... - (Arkadiy) - (5) - March 26, 2004, 08:29:03 AM EST

I guess now I do - (Arkadiy) - (4) - March 26, 2004, 09:15:38 AM EST

Think singleton - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:12:12 AM EDT

Translate into non comp-sci jargon? -NT - (deSitter) - (2) - March 26, 2004, 10:59:11 AM EST

Singleton is a pattern - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:12:42 AM EDT

Translation - (ben_tilly) - March 26, 2004, 02:06:14 PM EST

This was a problem in Java 1.02 as well - (tuberculosis) - (4) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:10:26 AM EDT

Re: This was a problem in Java 1.02 as well - (dshellman) - (3) - March 26, 2004, 03:56:20 PM EST

Could you elaborate on classloader problem? - (Arkadiy) - (2) - March 26, 2004, 05:46:17 PM EST

Re: Could you elaborate on classloader problem? - (dshellman) - (1) - March 31, 2004, 08:14:03 AM EST

As the article says, - (Arkadiy) - March 31, 2004, 09:03:13 AM EST

what does Guitar Center have to do with this? :) -NT - (Steve Lowe) - (2) - March 24, 2004, 06:27:10 PM EST

Re: what does Guitar Center have to do with this? :) - (deSitter) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 06:29:50 PM EST

Yes, and in the hands of a Master - (jb4) - March 25, 2004, 06:08:56 PM EST

Java has gonorrhea? Or Java == gonorrhea? I'd buy either. -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 24, 2004, 07:02:38 PM EST

I question the source - (ben_tilly) - (1) - March 23, 2004, 12:17:39 PM EST

Agree - marketing angle is obvious - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 05:52:24 AM EDT

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