Post #149,130
3/28/04 5:42:06 PM
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SBC/Yahoo DSL and a Linksys router...
A friend of my wife's used to have Comcast. The cable modem was hooked up to a Linksys router, and her and her two kids' machines came through the router. Everything was grand.
Now they've gotten SBC/Yahoo DSL. The main machine (an XP box) can hit the internet just fine, both directly through the DSL modem and the Linksys, IF the DSL modem is connected to the Linksys as just another computer, not through the "Internet" port. None of the other computers in the house can hit the internet.
The XP machine has both a local LAN connection and a PPPoe connection installed. Apparently the PPPoe thinger is used to cause the modem to dial; it has a 68.something interface, while the local LAN connection is DHCP off of 192.168.0.1. It's getting its dynamic address from the DSL modem, not the Linksys, even though it's connected to the Linksys.
The Linksys setup program can't find the Linksys. And if one of the other machines uses DHCP, it gets the same address as the XP machine.
She's going to call SBC and bitch at them a while... I told her if they can't help her out, I've got an extra ethernet card that can be used to make the XP machine into a router. I hate to do this if there's some way to get the Linksys to take on this responsibility instead.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #149,132
3/28/04 5:48:37 PM
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My usual answer:
Don't install *any* software from SBC or Linksys (remove if already installed). Don't use PPPoE on the XP box--the Linksys box should do that for you; just gotta get the correct IP's, etc. from SBC. None of the desktops should know you're using DSL, PPPoE, or what-have-you; the Linksys should be the only one to handle those details.
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Post #149,134
3/28/04 6:01:08 PM
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What he said.
I have a friend that has a Linux machine horked up through SBC/Yahoo DSL it acts like the linksys. Make sure the liknsys does the PPPoE vs the XP.
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Post #149,136
3/28/04 6:12:16 PM
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There's doesn't appear to be any way to get
to the Linksys *without* the Linksys software.
I'll check with the other stuff too... unfortunately they're computer-ignorant and I have to set up a time to go look at the machine.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #149,138
3/28/04 6:33:09 PM
3/28/04 6:34:24 PM
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I've done dozens of these with Linksys and SBC/Yahoo
- Hold in the Linksys reset button for 10 seconds to reset the box.
- Set the IP address on any machine on the network to 192.168.1.nn (anything but 1)
- Bring up the browser and type "[link|http://192.168.1.1|http://192.168.1.1]" (sometimes you have to hit it again to get a response)
- Leave user name blank and tab to password. Type in "admin".
- The setup screen will look different depending on revision level. In any case find where it says "Connection type" and set to PPPoE. You may have to save and reset at this point depending on rev level
- Set up user name and password. Save and reset before going to any other page.
- Go to the status page and see if it has connected. If not, and if hitting the "Connect" button doesn't work, something is wrong with the PPPoE user name or password.
- Go back to Setup page and set the LAN IP address you want.
- Set up DHCP as you want it (or turn it off if you don't want it. NOTE: DHCP must be off to use port forwarding.
- Do not use any SBC/Yahoo or Linksys software at any point.
Note: with the Linksys you need to save your settings before going to a different page or they'll be discarded. [link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #149,139
3/28/04 6:43:14 PM
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Thanks, I'll give that a try
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #149,968
4/4/04 12:53:57 PM
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Verified
that is how I did it with my Linksys.
The Linksys program requires that you have PPPoe set up with the DSL modem, and then hook the Linksys up to it so it can read the settings from the XP PPPoe connection. Only problem is that if you choose not to use PPPoe and use direct Internet instead, XP ghosts out the PPPoe option and never lets you select it again! The XP PPPoe clobbers the Linksys PPPoe when both are active and on the same router.
SBC software is Spyware, slows down the system a lot as well. Linksys software is not required. The only reason why you would need SBC software is to use the Enternet 500 PPPoe driver for Windows 2000 and lower that do not have a built in PPPoe Driver like XP and above has. Also you need the SBC software to create an account before you can even set up PPPoe, after that you can remove it. In case you do not want to use the SBC software to create an account, you can phone the helpdesk and request that they create an account for you.
"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"
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Post #149,133
3/28/04 5:51:30 PM
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Does the Linksys Router do PPPoe?
I've setup Linksys (BEFSR41 IIRC) and Netgear routers to login and stay logged into SBC/Yahoo DSL via PPPoe without having to use the SBC software (at least not after everything is working).
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Chris Altmann
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Post #151,887
4/20/04 1:43:19 AM
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Cablevision, Netgear RT314 router + ____? cable modem
Maybe this is getting too far afield re Consumer Reports, but:
Seems that the (only supplier here) Cablevision folk like a Motorola SB-5100 cable modem - will rent one at $5/month. I gather there are Toshibas, Samsung and Linksys; others? The tech, out of St. Jo. MO reported ~ that the indicator light logic on the Motorola seemed 'easier to interpret' by the [unwashed = that would be my 'client', in this regard]. Said also that the Motorolas have caused them the least trouble.
Buy/rent - have to now look for prices. Any opinions on cable modems or the Motorola in particular? EZ enough math to weigh the $60/yr with Company service VS no service and no monthly.
..and Mozilla 1.4 on a '95 Tecra P-120 and its 40MB max mem -- is quite slower than crashy but tinier NS Nav 4.5; Sheesh the stuff we put up with to get tabbed browsing.
Ashton, who almost 'needs' a faster nb
I.. can.. see.. Moz.. plod-ding-ly filling in the l e t t e r s;
prolly back to {ugh} Netscrape
let no good deed go unpunished
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Post #151,906
4/20/04 8:21:33 AM
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I've got a Moto SB5100.
I'm pretty happy with it. I'm using it with Cox cable internet.
I don't have any software installed for it. I just plugged it in, called Cox, gave them the MAC address, etc., and it started working.
I do have some occasional instances when the internet seems very very slow. I unplug the SB5100 for a few seconds, then plug it back in and let everything re-initialize and everything seems pretty quick again. I may install the Moto software and see if there are some diagnostics or something that'll give me a better idea of what's going on.
I purchased mine at [link|http://www.newegg.com|http://www.newegg.com] - [link|http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=25-122-104&depa=1|$65.50]. I wouldn't rent one even if I only needed it for a few months (you can always sell it on ebay). IIRC, Broom recommeneded it, and it gets good reviews.
HTH.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #151,921
4/20/04 11:49:32 AM
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Aging SB4100 here.
Flawless performance for 3 years now.
Peter
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Post #151,979
4/20/04 4:57:51 PM
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Done..
Think Tom's price scavenger had a hit at Compu-somedamnthing for $52.
Be interested in your experience installing 'their' s/ware. Esp. any gotchas of the sort that AOLs your entire setup.
The tech for Cablevision also mentioned the "unplug" panacea.. hmmm.
Thanks; one more off the checklist. Gonna put a General Q to the troops in Open Forum re "interviewing".
moi
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