personally I think Kerry is a fsckwit but unless the patriot

Post #148,496 by boxley 3/25/04 10:40:17 AM Reply	personally I think Kerry is a fsckwit but unless the patriot act goes, I vote agin bush, can kerry screw foreign policy up any worse? I dont think so. There is way too much political direction of the pentagon for my taste, Rove, Wolfowitz Rummy are not Napoleon clones, when it comes to war you give the generals a target and get out of the way. thanx, bill In Bush\ufffds America, fighting terrorism abroad is used as a pretext for vanquishing civil liberties at home. David Podvin questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #148,532 by danreck 3/25/04 1:31:24 PM Reply	Serious question... What foreign policy issues do you think Bush et al. in and outed up? Just a few thoughts, Danno
Post #148,536 by jb4 3/25/04 1:49:03 PM Reply	Short answer: All of them. Next question? A shorter list would be: What foreign policy issues do you thing Bush et al didn't fsck-up? Within 6 months, Duh turned a heartfelt "We are all Americans" into "Fuck you, Americans!" And that from our allies! You gotta work serious overtime to screw up somthing that thoroughly in that short of time. And were there any foreign policy issues before 9-11? Up till then, he had focused (apparently exclusively) on gutting the economy by giving tax breaks to the wealthiest 1%, encouraging corporations to offshore, and destroying the environment in the name of Corporate Profits\ufffd. jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #148,571 by danreck 3/25/04 4:54:16 PM Reply	Blah blah blah blah... How does it feel to be a parrot? The DNC must be proud... Just a few thoughts, Danno
Post #148,592 by jb4 3/25/04 6:17:22 PM Reply	Ooooh.....ad hominem! Yummy! jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #148,540 by boxley 3/25/04 2:17:25 PM Reply	On running the war The occupation was not well planned. Paying Chalabi 300k a month makes us all look like fools, shades of Batista. Putting soldiers in the field without good equipment is criminal. In WW2 you had jeeps fitted with 50cals for transport support, modern equivelent of cavalry outriders for a wagon train. They didnt deploy anything so transpotation troops got hit hard and unescesarily. On the eve of the push into Afghanistan plane load after planeload of Hercules aircraft filled with senior Taliban and El Quida were allowed to fly into Pakistan, we should have agreed to it then shot them down. Bush and Co let them go. His ties to the House of Saud are way to cozy and in my opinion have cost us in the fight against terror. The taking over of the republican party by neocons is a joke, a dangerous joke. Time for a change, preferably a heavy republican legislature and a democratic presidency to prevent excess of either side. thanx, bill In Bush\ufffds America, fighting terrorism abroad is used as a pretext for vanquishing civil liberties at home. David Podvin questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #148,572 by danreck 3/25/04 5:08:59 PM Reply	So you really believe that? That they conducted the operations innefficiently? I was amazed at how well it all went. Really. Having been in the Army, it amazes me that the ass clowns who run the place can even get water to the troups. The President is in charge of ground logistics? I always imagined that the Pres told the pentagon what the objectives were and they handled the details... As per the Saudis (et al), which president has not bent over to any OPEC nation, forgetting human rights et al... We the fucking people are starting to complain about the price of gas right now. I suppose the president who takes the moral high ground will get high marks for his courage and fortitude when gasoline costs $5 per gallon, right? Bullshit. We the fucking people will vote his sorry ass out quicker than shit through a goose. Change? I would vote for a change if I was given a choice. Who, other than Nader, stands for real change? Will you vote for him or will you buy into the steaming pile of bile and bullshit from the other white meat? Change for change sake is not necessarily a good thing. We had 8 years of flipflopping assclownery prior to Shrub. Package a snake oil salesman however you wish. JFK. Sorry, Box, but I'm not buying it and I don't believe that most independents will. Oh well. Just a few thoughts, Danno
Post #148,593 by boxley 3/25/04 6:18:04 PM Reply	Again Unless the Patriot act is recinded Im voting for the other assclown. Just dont like neoconns. As far as preparedness they went in without adequate supplies and equipment because the hmic ordered them in. Frank wanted to wait, he was told to get his ass in there. thanx, In Bush\ufffds America, fighting terrorism abroad is used as a pretext for vanquishing civil liberties at home. David Podvin questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

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