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New Ah, good. I'll have to look at Seaside again.
Thanks for clearing that up.

Now, reading that article, I'm left with the impression that this entails "extra" work. For a site like this, where most URLs need to be bookmarkable, how burdensome is the extra work? As Todd said, the only thing here that really benefits from a continuation-like process is the act of creating a new post (and to a smaller extent, editing preferences).
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-scott anderson

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New Re: Ah, good. I'll have to look at Seaside again.
Yes but if you can make it go, there's a framework for adding real goodies like a chat window, video feed, sound ...

Or a C64 emulator.
-drl
New Probably no worse than adding an expired session error
handler. Which I think has been planned for and is relatively straightforward but I'd need to reacquaint myself with the framework. I've been buried in very badly written J2EE for the past month.




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Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:05:40 AM EDT
New Badly written J2EE...
Give me the comfy chair any time. :-P
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-scott anderson

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New Complete with the abysmal oracle specific sql I've been
whining about in the database forums. I need to rewrite the mother - but I need to port it and keep it alive for awhile before I'll get time.




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Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:05:51 AM EDT
New Not too burdensome
A Seaside UI is a tree of "component" objects. You can think of them sort of like separate windows, each in their own thread, with their own state and widgets and event handlers, but all ending up renderered to the same HTML page. Each component gets a chance to stick some extra information into the URL based on its current state. Most of them don't take advantage of this, but, say, a MessageViewer might add a "messageid=23" parameter. That's half of the extra work. The other half is writing a piece of code that, when starting a new session, constructs an appropriate component tree based on the incoming request. So it would need to look at the "messageid=23", and build the UI to include a MessageViewer holding onto the appropiate message. Then it would go from there in its usual persistent-session way.

In most web environments, you end up doing this (mapping application state to and from URLs) for every page of the app. The only thing that makes it "extra" in Seaside is that most of the time Seaside lets you get away with not doing it.
New That makes sense.
Thanks for the info.
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-scott anderson

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New Welcome aboard!
Always nice to see fresh blood. You, there, in the back, hide those fangs. And you, no ropes, we're trying to be friends here. Yes, I know that you were trying to be friendly but...

OK, OK, the crowd sometimes gets a bit rowdy, but we're a friendly lot. Really.

Cheers,
Ben

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Expand Edited by ben_tilly March 25, 2004, 07:07:30 PM EST
New Yeah, what Ben said. :-)
We're also obviously quite rude in not welcoming you sooner.
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     Ah, good. I'll have to look at Seaside again. - (admin) - (9)
         Re: Ah, good. I'll have to look at Seaside again. - (deSitter)
         Probably no worse than adding an expired session error - (tuberculosis) - (2)
             Badly written J2EE... - (admin) - (1)
                 Complete with the abysmal oracle specific sql I've been - (tuberculosis)
         Not too burdensome - (Avi Bryant) - (4)
             That makes sense. - (admin)
             Welcome aboard! - (ben_tilly)
             Yeah, what Ben said. :-) - (Steve Lowe)
             Greetings! (new thread) - (pwhysall)

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