Not so easy to find a savvy person either

Post #147,740 by bluke 3/23/04 9:14:46 AM Reply	Not so easy to find a savvy person either We actually just got someone from a different group which closed down and did just that. We took someone good who doesn't really know Java, hopefully it will work out.
Post #147,746 by deSitter 3/23/04 9:30:06 AM Reply	Re: Not so easy to find a savvy person either I could go to work tomorrow if only ONE person in the ENTIRE 300 million person country would admit that they hire idiots and take a chance on a demonstrable non-idiot. I am still out of work and will stay that way. For God's sake Todd's out of work! How is this possible? How? -drl
Post #147,754 by bluke 3/23/04 9:38:55 AM Reply	Because HR screens resumes and HR looks for buzzwords and other stupidities and has no way of evaluating technical people. Also, today there is this mindset that the company is looking for specific skills and if you don't have that specific skill forget it. Last but not least is that the fact that there is a serious lack of knowledge in the field in general. Most people have had no exposure to anything but C/C++, Java and Widnows, and therefore they can't understand other viewpoints.
Post #147,756 by admin 3/23/04 9:40:27 AM Reply	Definitely agree on that last point. I find that people who have learned a "contra" skill like Python, perl, Smalltalk, and the like, do much better in general than those who haven't. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #147,761 by bluke 3/23/04 9:49:15 AM Reply	The best thing I ever did was learn Smalltalk and do real development in it for 3 years. It changed my perspective on everything. I also took a programming languages in grad school which also at least introduced me to some other paradigms. These kinds of things really expand your thinking. For example, most of the Java programmers that I work(ed) with find absolutely nothing wrong with primitive types, they don't even realize that other languages have no such concept and that this might be a good idea. When I used to interview people for Java programming positions one of the questions I used to ask was "Do you think primitive types are a good thing in Java?" If they could at least explain the issues involved it showed that they had some understanding of things. You wouldn't believe how many people did not understand the question.
Post #147,766 by boxley 3/23/04 9:56:47 AM Reply	I dont know, but as long as they bathe regular I dont mind did I get the job? :-) thanx, bill "You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #147,820 by admin 3/23/04 11:42:34 AM Reply	Great interview question: What don't you like about [programming language]? If they haven't thought about it enough to find the warts, they don't know it well enough. No language is perfect. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."

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