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New Owned one of them ID19 french babes
Nice & unusual car - lots of funny stories to tell about that episode.
[link|http://members.lycos.nl/kiawallpaper/citroen7.html|http://members.lycos...per/citroen7.html] (an ID19)

Things happened with those cars that are outside the realm of the normal.

Must confess my real loves were the DS21 then the later Maserati Citroen
[link|http://www.citroen-sm-club.ch/|http://www.citroen-sm-club.ch/] (a sexy pic of the SM)

Doug M

- Where's the jack to jack up the car ?, what jack ? - you extend the undercart to full, place this metal prop here at the side of the car between the doors & lower the undercart (car lowers itself & rolls to one side with underside exposed & propped up side's wheels in the air.

- How do I change the rear tyre ? - here's a handle, now use it to remove the rear-side of the car, over the particular wheel, by undoing this bolt here, now use this part of the crank handle to undo the central wheel locking bolt (wheel falls off)

- Why are the front wheels wider apart that the rear wheels ? (never did find out why)

- Why is the gear box in front of the engine ? - because the drive axles emerge from it to drive the front wheels

- Where are the front wheel's disk brakes ? at the inside end of the wheel drive axles close to the gear box

- what happens when you accidentaly bang the bottom of a coke bottle against the edge of the front door window when door is open (there is no metal frame around the top half of the door, just the glass) - the window explodes into 1,000s of little square fragments

- What happens when you fail to secure the bonnet & drive off at speed ? - the bonnet wraps right over the car obscuring your view & reshaping itself

- What happens when a service mechanic fails to tighten the bolts holding one of the front axles to one of the front wheels ? - the bolts slowly fall out one at a time (there are 5 in total) until the last one snaps then the axle flails around ripping out the hydralic lines & collapsing the suspension

(there's more but this will do)

Doug M
Expand Edited by dmarker March 22, 2004, 05:05:53 AM EST
Expand Edited by dmarker March 22, 2004, 05:18:06 AM EST
New Re: Owned one of them ID19 french babes
- Where's the jack to jack up the car ?, what jack ? - you extend the undercart to full, place this metal prop here at the side of the car between the doors & lower the undercart (car lowers itself & rolls to one side with underside exposed & propped up side's wheels in the air.

Lovely, that.. makes putting on chains, etc. duck soup
Oh: you could also toss one rear wheel in the trunk (saw demonstrated) and drive around -- with suitable allowance for any hard cornering on the umm missing-wheel side, natch. More re: that great body torsional rigidity and narrower rear track -- it thought it was a Morgan 3-wheeler!


- How do I change the rear tyre ? - here's a handle, now use it to remove the rear-side of the car, over the particular wheel, by undoing this bolt here, now use this part of the crank handle to undo the central wheel locking bolt (wheel falls off)

Ditto

- Why are the front wheels wider apart that the rear wheels ? (never did find out why)

Clever French - the tilting-moment of (heavier + wider) front end + the greatest torsional rigidity of any car then produced, meant - the sucker won't roll because of the skewed rear CG. More nimble.

- Why is the gear box in front of the engine ? - because the drive axles emerge from it to drive the front wheels

- Where are the front wheel's disk brakes ? at the inside end of the wheel drive axles close to the gear box

Masterful stroke re sprung/unsprung weight: as basic a sound engrg. principle as exists re cars. A la various GP carz (models escape - prolly the Great White Cars of Auto Union fame; 'Audi' is a mere shadow if its former Self). Bernd Rsoemeyer and his ilk. (Died in a test car on the new Autobahn :(

- what happens when you accidentaly bang the bottom of a coke bottle against the edge of the front door window when door is open (there is no metal frame around the top half of the door, just the glass) - the window explodes into 1,000s of little square fragments

Same as happens on my also-frameless Acura Plutocrat, if I'm dumb enough to not know where my cocaine bottle is, when I close a door... I Like not having that A-pillar further obscuring the view of surroundings: added by steel frame.

- What happens when you fail to secure the bonnet & drive off at speed ? - the bonnet wraps right over the car obscuring your view & reshaping itself

Has a safety catch - of course, you can defeat Anything. Note that the oval rear cutout prolly means you still can see.

- What happens when a service mechanic fails to tighten the bolts holding one of the front axles to one of the front wheels ? - the bolts slowly fall out one at a time (there are 5 in total) until the last one snaps then the axle flails around ripping out the hydralic lines & collapsing the suspension

About same as happens when you leave out or screw-up almost any vital part of anything.
I never had a road breakdown of any kind on 5 specimens - two of those new. Of course, I maintain stuff and I ain't a blithering idiot, most days. Ask the Paris Taxi drivers what *their* experience is/was.

Yeah, my '68 was a DS-21; Pallas - obscenely plush interior. Lusted after CX-n series -- by then, Cit USA was almost toast due to idiot mechanics who would Not keep greasy hands out of hydraulic components; owners who would never change hyd. fluid. (+ due to ordinary general ignorance of US car users/abusers)

Dr. Nelson had a SM, which I lusted after mightily.. Not rich enough to justify this jewel. Finally got to drive one; loved the var.-rate steering and extra power. Could I have found one 2 yrs. ago, in exceptional condition: shoo-in.

But hey - these were Not cars for jerks. Cared for merely intelligently - 200K miles before any significant repairs.. remember the power train was well proven, nothing flashy - on purpose. I imagine the CX- models demo'ed what the chassis could do with more power/weight..

Will check out links anon,

moi
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