Post #14,715
10/22/01 11:20:07 PM
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Men, you can leave now.
Your services [link|http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_430602.html?menu=news.latestheadlines|are no longer needed].
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Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?
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Post #14,721
10/23/01 12:13:48 AM
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I don't think so.
Self reproduction is degenerative. Defects are reproduced and accumulate until the offspring are non-functional. Doesn't take long in complex critters. Non-sexual reproduction doesn't get a whole lot farther than algae and single celled critters that divide.
Some insects can do it for brief periods. Interestingly, in some insects that do self-reproduce, all offspring are male. I presume this is to assure the next generation will be mostly sexually reproduced (presuming enough sexually reproduced females to make a next generation possible).
Evolution beyond algae is heavily dependent on variability and sexual combination.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #14,727
10/23/01 2:06:38 AM
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So you think we still have a chance...
...to evolve beyond algae?
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Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?
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Post #14,728
10/23/01 2:10:01 AM
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It's tough competition . .
. . but I think we can do it!
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #14,746
10/23/01 7:56:13 AM
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Um, not quite
Self-reproduction is not degenerative in the slightest. It is just that you cannot evolve quickly in response to your surroundings. With sexual reproduction a population can evolve to the limits of their genetic variation on short notice (a few generations), and then recover that variation when nothing big is going on. Asexual populations can't recombine genetically, and so are at a disadvantage responding to changes in their environment, but they can evolve much more precisely to their environment than sexual species who lose a certain number to genetic defects.
But you are correct that the research would not immediately work for humans. We, being a sexual species, have a lot of lethal recessives. If you start self-reproducing, that will bring a lot of them out. You can think of the result as the child of severe incest, worst case scenario.
However if you could combine 2 eggs, that would work just fine. Lesbians everywhere would rejoice, and the male parasite (yes, I suspect that males arose as parasites on a hermaphroditic population) would be eliminated from the picture...
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #14,748
10/23/01 8:34:39 AM
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Isn't there a lizard
species comprised of only females? IIRC, they produce fertile eggs w/o males...
Imric's Tips for Living- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Post #14,768
10/23/01 9:59:57 AM
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Wow...
Planet of Women....
The place of Karsten's dreams!
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #14,834
10/23/01 6:50:12 PM
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What's that old allegory about the one-eyed...
...snake in the land of the blondes?
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Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?
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Post #14,858
10/23/01 9:06:48 PM
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I thought you were talking about petey
tshirt front "born to die before I get old"
thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
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Post #14,774
10/23/01 10:42:20 AM
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Holy Mary, Mother of God! :)
Alex
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
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Post #15,145
10/25/01 6:14:44 PM
8/21/07 12:46:16 PM
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I wish these people
would knock it off so and get back to fucking around.
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