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New The Kurds got casino resorts?
And wait, didn't most of those native tribes *want* to live in primitive, squalid conditions? Wasn't that the way of life they were fighting to defend? Against assimilation into a technologically progressive democracy? And didn't they get part of what they wanted in the end? Those miserable reservations are a compromise. All their inhabitants really lost was an illusion of freedom. And they passed up the opportunity to taste the real thing. Their choice.

The ones who moved on... don't count, because they don't think of themselves as native Americans anymore. They're just people. Individual human beings living in a free and prosperous society, who just happen to be descended from a particular class of primitive people (Native Americans) instead of another class of primitive people (Indo-Europeans) Or more likely, descended from both classes. But that sort of distinction only means something to a racist.

At least by ignoring these people, the Native American whiners implicitly acknowledge that it's about culture, not race. But culture is a choice. It's not who you are, it's what you choose to be. Or to settle for being. In a free society, we can choose our actions. But on planet Earth, we are never free to choose the consequences of our actions. In other words, you can have it either way you want, but you can't have it both ways. Those on the reservations made their choice to live there instead of joining the larger society. At least those of adult age have. They deserve the same consideration as those who choose to live in a hippie commune or a Kool-Aid cult compound. If it works for them, leave them to it. If it doesn't, let them deal with it.

I have a suspicion that more chose to move on than to cling to the past. But even assuming this is true, hard data are unlikely to be available in any tidy, easy-to-correctly-interpret package, because they've all been defined away into rhetorical nonexistence. The census had - shamefully - the concept of racial distinctions back then, as well as ethnic distinctions, but [link|http://www.umsystem.edu/shs/nativeam.html|not] this particular one.

Okay, Georgia treated the Cherokees shamefully. But that was the South, and the South will not rise again. You can consider that score settled. And even if it weren't, all the participants on both sides have been in their graves for quite a while now.

Meanwhile, in Syria, the Kurds say they *want* democracy and a more civilized, settled way of life. It's their oppressors that are forcing them to live lives that are nasty, brutish and short. The Baathist regime isn't interested in putting them on reservations and then leaving them to their own devices. It's interested in either ruling them or exterminating them. It was the same in Saddam's Iraq. But there the Kurds managed to create their own reservation by force. Wherein they enjoyed a quality and length of life *better* than they would have had otherwise. Even without the casino resorts. But they still had to fight to maintain it. Frankly, our Indian tribes have it soft.

I don't care about the Kurds because they're Kurds. I care about the Kurds because they want democracy, civilization, and the privilege of breathing, and there are thugs trying to deny them all these things. The ethnicity is beside the point. As it should be.

Kurds in Syria == American Indians? Only if black == white.
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DEAL WITH IT.
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Compromise is for suckers. Seeking a middle ground is what led to 9/11.
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Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas?
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New Hey box, you want the honor, or should I do it?
New here is an example of democracy Indian style
read the following document, this is/was made in 2003 not 1803. As you can see by one of the resolutions below that getting equal treatment as citizens is still an issue. You take local cops for granted, what happens when the state tells you no courts, no cops in your area. So in the white world the local town raises some taxes and puts cops on the street. Unfortunately if the villages do that the state claims that the local cops are illegal because the state didnt authorise them. So before you start your white whining, lets get on an equal footing. Or is the rule "no matter what the government promises the tribes it is unenforcable 30 seconds after signing forever"
your are living proof that "if you aint white you aint right"
thanx,
bill
[link|http://www.nativefederation.org/frames/afnResolutions.html|http://www.nativefed...nResolutions.html]
SUPPORTING THE CONTINUATION OF FULL
STATE FUNDING FOR THE VILLAGE PUBLIC
SAFETY OFFICER PROGRAM, UNTIL SUCH TIME
AS THE VILLAGES RECEIVE FULL AND EQUAL
COMMUNITY POLICING SERVICES
when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
     Meanwhile in Syria - (marlowe) - (7)
         How dare they treat those Kurds like American Indians, Shame -NT - (boxley) - (3)
             The Kurds got casino resorts? - (marlowe) - (2)
                 Hey box, you want the honor, or should I do it? -NT - (inthane-chan)
                 here is an example of democracy Indian style - (boxley)
         Which US president promised to help them? - (lincoln) - (1)
             So was he right or was he wrong? - (marlowe)
         So invade them. -NT - (pwhysall)

Erm, jb......that already IS a Lerpadism.
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