This Iraq stuff is distracting us from catching terrorists!

Brief outline of history found here, now explain in detail what you have done in Iraq that has been better than anyone else. In detail please.
Also explain why the tribal leaders are being ignored by Bremer and the army as I quote one Sheik, the Mullahs preach on "my" sufference while complaining of being ingnored by the US co-alition. These folks dominate that society, would be a great help in intel and are being ignored in favor of mullahs and Exile asskissing. That is what floundering means, people with no historical knowledge trying again and again to make the facts on the ground fit their imaginings and wondering why it doesnt work.
thanx,
bill

[link|http://www.regiments.org/milhist/mideast/iraq.htm|http://www.regiments.../mideast/iraq.htm]

1930.11.16 \tIraq Parliament ratified British treaty confirming complete independence and sovereignty, and British base rights for twenty-five years
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1932.10.03 \tIndependence and admission to League of Nations \t
1936.10.29 \tfirst military coup in Iraq (Gen. Bakr Sidqi) was accepted by the King, thereby undermining the constitution and setting the stage for further military interventions in politics \t

\t1939 \tKing Ghazi sought to annex Kuwait but was killed in a car crash (3 Apr. 1939) \t
1939-45 \tSecond World War \t
1940.03.31 \tpro-German premiership of Rashid Ali \t
1941 \tBritish invasion and occupation to prevent control by Germany and relieve its besieged bases \t
1945 \tIraq a founding member of the Arab League \t
1945.12.21 \tIraq joined United Nations \t
1947.10.26 \tBritish occupation ended (with the exception of two RAF bases -- Habbaniyah and Shaibah) \t
1948.01.15 \tTreaty of Portsmouth, calling for continued British role in Iraq's defence, met violent popular opposition and was not ratified (the 1930 treaty remained in force)

Post #146,599 by marlowe 3/16/04 9:13:19 PM Reply	This Iraq stuff is distracting us from catching terrorists! [link\|http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/18/1071337092941.html?from=storyrhs\|Month after month goes by and no terrorists caught!] Excerpt: A document discovered during the capture of Saddam Hussein has enabled the US military to smash a ring of terrorist cells in Baghdad, according to US reports. The papers, found in a briefcase at the deposed leader's underground hideout in Tikrit, contained detailed information on the insurgency's funding and a summary of recent operations, the American media reported. Using intelligence gleaned from the find, troops arrested three former Iraqi generals and have broken up six of up to 14 cells active in the capital. ---------------------------------------------------------------- DEAL WITH IT. "YAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!" - Howard Dean "How can I go to the bathroom when my people are in bondage?" - Saddam Hussein "If I may be candid for a moment, and let's see you try to stop me..." - Jay Conrad Levinson Compromise is for suckers. Seeking a middle ground is what led to 9/11. "I do not want to be admired by scumbags and liars and wife beaters. I want to be admired by good and decent, intelligent and just people, and in order to achieve this I need to do things that make me despised by their opposites." - Bill Whittle Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas? [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
Post #146,602 by boxley 3/16/04 9:19:22 PM Reply	oops something got past big brother in that link Among the documents was a list of those who had attended a council of the rebels' network. rebel son, call them terrorists all you want but it is their country, call em terrorists after they land here, dont get confused I know its hard for you to think In you dirt, rebel, insurgent In someone elses dirt terrorists not going too fast for you am I? thanx, bill when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #146,603 by marlowe 3/16/04 9:21:14 PM Reply	In the Shia and Kurd's dirt, terrorist. In the basement of the WTC is 1993, terrorist. You're an idiot. ---------------------------------------------------------------- DEAL WITH IT. "YAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!" - Howard Dean "How can I go to the bathroom when my people are in bondage?" - Saddam Hussein "If I may be candid for a moment, and let's see you try to stop me..." - Jay Conrad Levinson Compromise is for suckers. Seeking a middle ground is what led to 9/11. "I do not want to be admired by scumbags and liars and wife beaters. I want to be admired by good and decent, intelligent and just people, and in order to achieve this I need to do things that make me despised by their opposites." - Bill Whittle Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas? [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
Post #146,604 by boxley 3/16/04 9:22:26 PM Reply	what no one Iraq? at least Im not led by the nose by a buncha commies heh. thanx, bill when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #146,681 by marlowe 3/17/04 10:59:50 AM Reply	I'm not wild about the unified Iraq either. But progress... is progress. Nobody before has done any better with that arbitrary geographical region, and there's no reason to think Kerry will do even as well. Check your perfectionism at the door. This is the real world. ---------------------------------------------------------------- DEAL WITH IT. "YAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!" - Howard Dean "How can I go to the bathroom when my people are in bondage?" - Saddam Hussein "If I may be candid for a moment, and let's see you try to stop me..." - Jay Conrad Levinson Compromise is for suckers. Seeking a middle ground is what led to 9/11. "I do not want to be admired by scumbags and liars and wife beaters. I want to be admired by good and decent, intelligent and just people, and in order to achieve this I need to do things that make me despised by their opposites." - Bill Whittle Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas? [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
Post #146,683 by deSitter 3/17/04 11:05:51 AM 3/17/04 11:07:17 AM Reply	!! Noone could have fucked it up more than Cheneyburton and Shrubco. Your little nation-building enterprise has netted one chaotic wasteland where money is useless, another police state with murderous rogues wandering at large, and the third an explicitly socialist democracy and what might be a model for Europe - one that could easily again turn to authoritarian leadership. Yes, you fuckers have it nailed all right. -drl Edited by deSitter March 17, 2004, 11:07:17 AM EST Expand All History
Post #146,688 by boxley 3/17/04 11:16:57 AM Reply	well so far you havnt done any better than the british in 23 Brief outline of history found here, now explain in detail what you have done in Iraq that has been better than anyone else. In detail please. Also explain why the tribal leaders are being ignored by Bremer and the army as I quote one Sheik, the Mullahs preach on "my" sufference while complaining of being ingnored by the US co-alition. These folks dominate that society, would be a great help in intel and are being ignored in favor of mullahs and Exile asskissing. That is what floundering means, people with no historical knowledge trying again and again to make the facts on the ground fit their imaginings and wondering why it doesnt work. thanx, bill [link\|http://www.regiments.org/milhist/mideast/iraq.htm\|http://www.regiments.../mideast/iraq.htm] 1930.11.16 \tIraq Parliament ratified British treaty confirming complete independence and sovereignty, and British base rights for twenty-five years \t 1932.10.03 \tIndependence and admission to League of Nations \t 1936.10.29 \tfirst military coup in Iraq (Gen. Bakr Sidqi) was accepted by the King, thereby undermining the constitution and setting the stage for further military interventions in politics \t \t1939 \tKing Ghazi sought to annex Kuwait but was killed in a car crash (3 Apr. 1939) \t 1939-45 \tSecond World War \t 1940.03.31 \tpro-German premiership of Rashid Ali \t 1941 \tBritish invasion and occupation to prevent control by Germany and relieve its besieged bases \t 1945 \tIraq a founding member of the Arab League \t 1945.12.21 \tIraq joined United Nations \t 1947.10.26 \tBritish occupation ended (with the exception of two RAF bases -- Habbaniyah and Shaibah) \t 1948.01.15 \tTreaty of Portsmouth, calling for continued British role in Iraq's defence, met violent popular opposition and was not ratified (the 1930 treaty remained in force) when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

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