Not this again.

Post #146,546 by admin 3/16/04 4:01:03 PM Reply	Not this again. SUVs are pointless for most people. People who live on ranches, like my father, need them. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #146,551 by lister 3/16/04 4:15:47 PM Reply	Small minority I have to begrudgingly agree that there are some people, a small group of people, that do actually have a need for vehicles like SUVs and pickup trucks. I have a friend with a pickup truck that he actually puts to real use. I have other friends who have SUVs and pickups trucks that are posers. One tweak they could make to minivans that would lessen my objecture to them is to get rid of the tinted windows. I'm one of those people that likes to see what is ahead of the idiot in front of me. lister
Post #146,552 by pwhysall 3/16/04 4:18:59 PM Reply	Not a SUV, a proper 4x4. SUVs, by and large, are shit at offroading. One of the SUV-owners at work (don't recall which model - might have been a Jeep) discovered that (1) the tyres have sod all grip in mud (2) there's bugger-all torque (3) having your expensive SUV pulled back onto the road by a 30-year-old tractor driven by a cackling farmhand and his mates is embarrassing (4) The bloody paint comes off very easily. Now a Landrover Defender, that's yer actual offroad vehicle. Draughty, uncomfortable, no stereo, no A/C (take the lid off :)) but holy hell does it go where no poncemobile dares. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home Page - Now with added Zing!]
Post #146,554 by drewk 3/16/04 4:28:25 PM Reply	Gimme a Unimog === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #146,566 by Andrew Grygus 3/16/04 6:28:52 PM Reply	Oh yes, in particular . . . . there is a need for the Mercedes, Cadillac, Lexus (and would you believe Porche?) SUVs that swarm around here. These are very practical vehicles priced just right for the average rancher or cowhand. The typical SUV around here is a big luxury model driven slow and erratically by a small woman holding a cell phone to her ear (apparently a permanent condition), and has no other occupants. It would NEVER be taken off the pavement for fear it might get dusty. Between 2:30 and 4:00 on school days they positively swarm, slowing traffic to a crawl. Every once in a while two of them try to mate, causing an even greater traffic disruption, their drivers milling around in the street still holding cell phones to their ears. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #146,568 by boxley 3/16/04 6:36:50 PM Reply	whats worse than a woman in an SUV with a cell phone an Italian woman behind the wheel with a cell phone. Watch them from my perch on the bus, ciggy in hand waving wildly about, cell jammed in ear with a death grip and a slight wheel correction every three or 4 car lengths at 50mph. thanx, bill when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #146,572 by ben_tilly 3/16/04 6:41:59 PM Reply	ICLRPD (new thread) Created as new thread #146571 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=146571\|ICLRPD] "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]

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