Camp Delta inmate: "It was great and I didn't want to leave"

Well, not quite.

Jamal was travelling in Pakistan when his driver strayed into Afghanistan. He was picked up by the Taliban on suspicion of being a British spy, and then by the Americans.

He was recently freed from Camp Delta after 2 years.

[link|http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=14042696_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-MY%2DHELL%2DIN%2DCAMP%2DX%2DRAY-name_page.html|http://www.mirror.co...AY-name_page.html]

Perspective from The Red Cross:

[link|http://observer.guardian.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,1153400,00.html|http://observer.guar...3,1153400,00.html]

I say: If what he's saying is even half true, the US authorities have got some hard questions to answer.

And if what he's saying is even half true, how long before this kind of treatment is extended to US and "friendly" nations' citizens, if they're considered to be some kind of threat to national security.

It's a disgrace.

Dear Senator!

As you know, we have recently released a few British citizen that have been held at Guantanamo Bay. The article in Guardian describes the experience of one of those people. Among other things, he mentions dirty water, interference with religios beliefs, bad and even malicious medical help, phisycal and mental torture.
The article can be found at [link|http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=14042696_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-MY%2DHELL%2DIN%2DCAMP%2DX%2DRAY-name_page.html|http://www.mirror.co...AY-name_page.html].

You, of course, will form your own opinion, but I find the methods we use to be unworthy of our great nation. That is something I'd expect to hear about Saddam Husein prison, not a POW camp and/or investigation prison ran by American military.

I do realize that you are a busy man, but please take time to investigate the facts in the article. If teh abuses do take place, they must be stopped. If the former inmate is engaged in slander, that should be stopped too. The situation as it is is a dishonor on the name of United States of America.

Sincerely - Arkadiy Belousov.

Post #145,803 by pwhysall 3/12/04 7:24:24 AM 3/12/04 7:33:27 AM Reply	Camp Delta inmate: "It was great and I didn't want to leave" Well, not quite. Jamal was travelling in Pakistan when his driver strayed into Afghanistan. He was picked up by the Taliban on suspicion of being a British spy, and then by the Americans. He was recently freed from Camp Delta after 2 years. [link\|http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=14042696_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-MY%2DHELL%2DIN%2DCAMP%2DX%2DRAY-name_page.html\|http://www.mirror.co...AY-name_page.html] Perspective from The Red Cross: [link\|http://observer.guardian.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,1153400,00.html\|http://observer.guar...3,1153400,00.html] I say: If what he's saying is even half true, the US authorities have got some hard questions to answer. And if what he's saying is even half true, how long before this kind of treatment is extended to US and "friendly" nations' citizens, if they're considered to be some kind of threat to national security. It's a disgrace. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home Page - Now with added Zing!] Edited by pwhysall March 12, 2004, 07:31:35 AM EST Edited by pwhysall March 12, 2004, 07:33:27 AM EST Expand All History
Post #145,807 by deSitter 3/12/04 7:36:11 AM Reply	Horrible - and I think it will change We just won't put up with this once the information gets out, which it will. -drl
Post #145,811 by Arkadiy 3/12/04 8:24:55 AM Reply	This is going to my senators. This crap will not stand! -- ...what happened to intelligence of this country? -- Sen. Kerry.
Post #145,814 by Arkadiy 3/12/04 8:44:27 AM Reply	Done. Dear Senator! As you know, we have recently released a few British citizen that have been held at Guantanamo Bay. The article in Guardian describes the experience of one of those people. Among other things, he mentions dirty water, interference with religios beliefs, bad and even malicious medical help, phisycal and mental torture. The article can be found at [link\|http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=14042696_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-MY%2DHELL%2DIN%2DCAMP%2DX%2DRAY-name_page.html\|http://www.mirror.co...AY-name_page.html]. You, of course, will form your own opinion, but I find the methods we use to be unworthy of our great nation. That is something I'd expect to hear about Saddam Husein prison, not a POW camp and/or investigation prison ran by American military. I do realize that you are a busy man, but please take time to investigate the facts in the article. If teh abuses do take place, they must be stopped. If the former inmate is engaged in slander, that should be stopped too. The situation as it is is a dishonor on the name of United States of America. Sincerely - Arkadiy Belousov. -- ...what happened to intelligence of this country? -- Sen. Kerry.
Post #145,887 by jb4 3/12/04 2:18:00 PM Reply	Hope you spell-checked the version you displayed here... ...before you sent it. It looks like I typed it.... jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #146,216 by Arkadiy 3/15/04 9:06:20 AM Reply	Used a web form. If they insist on modern technology, they get modern spelling. I hope all the keywords are spelled corectly. -- ...what happened to intelligence of this country? -- Sen. Kerry.
Post #146,256 by jb4 3/15/04 1:57:10 PM Reply	Given the mentality there, there's a good chance that the good Senator-bot won't notice. jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #145,838 by dmarker 3/12/04 11:15:33 AM Reply	Am not surprised to hear stories like this - am sure there will be more. The stupid part of this is that the detainees will become a new kind of hero to anti-western interests & what happened at Gitmo to many of these people, will be to our eternal shame. Doug M
Post #145,840 by boxley 3/12/04 11:32:01 AM Reply	was this the fellow who claimed prostitutes were paraded in front of them? Dunno about gitmo but hookers had a hell of a time getting into the naval yard on gib. You had to go to town to get one. thanx, bill when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #145,947 by Simon_Jester 3/12/04 7:02:47 PM Reply	Depends on whether or not they properly "approved" by higher-ups. These hookers aren't to keep the sailors happy (if you read the article) but rather are used for psychological reasons (or so it is claimed).
Post #145,952 by boxley 3/12/04 7:32:40 PM Reply	yabut ya wanto get the boys properly riled two words suckling pig and a lot easier to get than a naked menustrating female sailor/marine who would be calling the tabloids the second she got home. There is no civvy population at gitmo. the pig would horrify them more than a naked broad. thanx, bill when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #145,967 by bepatient 3/12/04 8:54:36 PM Reply	Pretty much. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} It goes in, it must come out._{Teslacle's Deviant to Fudd's Law} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #145,994 by drewk 3/13/04 12:12:24 AM Reply	Mustn't ... make ... female Marine ... suckling pig ... joke === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.

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