I'll agree that the value of the Iraqi provisional ...

Post #145,120 by a6l6e6x 3/9/04 8:00:58 PM Reply	I'll agree that the value of the Iraqi provisional ... constitution is yet to be determined. It's temporary in any case. But, any constitution that does not protect the citizen from the government is not worth the paper it's written on. The lack of a constitution in Israel is why the Israeli Arab are second class citizens without recourse for getting equal treatment by the government. Alex Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom ... the argument of tyrants ... the creed of slaves. -- William Pitt, addressing the British House of Commons (1783)
Post #145,149 by boxley 3/9/04 10:00:23 PM Reply	thats bs and you know it we had a constitution since 1776 and the blacks are treated equally to whites in America? sure they are. You live where? Are you sure?:-) Constitutions are better than basic law? Depends on the law. Talmudic law is refined over centuries on how man should treat his fellow man and man's relationship to the laws of G_d as laid down in the first 5 books. A similar notion to Supreme Court interpretation of the constitution refined by precedent over the last 228 years in America. The Jews have about 1800 written documented years of precededent and refinement. Does this equal justice for Israeli Arabs? Not anymore than a constitution does for Leanard Peltier, Dr. King, Rodney King and Mrs O.J. Simpson does in America. Would I live in Israel? Only if it looked like she was going under or if I had to fight my way out of the camps here. Explain your position on how the rights enshrined in the basic law would be enforced if Israel enshrined those same rights in a "constitution" Oh yeah, Sharon could be appointed just like Scalia to their Supreme court. Laws are no better than the scoundrels that enforce them. thanx, bill when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #145,183 by a6l6e6x 3/10/04 12:31:25 AM Reply	Yes, a constitution has to be put in practice and its principles applied fairly. And in the US, it has not and does not always do its job. But generally speaking, it does work and you can refer to it to identify the wrongs done to people. I need not tell you it's not that lengthy a document. Israel does not have a constitution because it would be embarrassed by what it would have to say to account for all those archaic religious laws. I expect better. Alex Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom ... the argument of tyrants ... the creed of slaves. -- William Pitt, addressing the British House of Commons (1783)

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