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New very useful
For one thing it tells me this project is feasible, which is what I really wanted to know.

Questions will be forthcoming!
-drl
New Biggest issue you will have:
Smalltalk runs in an instance. Python can be used simply as a call; it was designed that way (like Perl). I'm not sure how you would do that with Smalltalk.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Re: Biggest issue you will have:
You mean the Smalltalk VM has to be fired up first? I was naively assuming this would be handled something similar to Java SPs.

Acutally in the back of my mind I have this idea of a normal looking Squeak environment with an extension that adds postgres capabilities, and some objects would have a "stored" property indicating they are really SPs.
-drl
New Stored procs run in the Postgres process
Unless you punt and simply remote the call. I think the performance would suck, though.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New OK
..so perhaps postgres itself will have a minimal VM if you build it with the hypothetical plsqueak.
-drl
New You'll want to look at this at least:
[link|http://www.kurtz-fernhout.com/squeak/|http://www.kurtz-fernhout.com/squeak/]
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Look here
[link|http://www.netjam.org/squat/|http://www.netjam.org/squat/]

Squat is Craig Latta's minimal Squeak project. Basically he's trying to get the thing down to a little server kernel that has just enough capability to bulk itself up on demand over a network connection. Last I heard he was in the sub 100k range.

If you bug him about it he'll probably help you. There is a mailing list. My guess is that squat by itself is adequate for your project.



The tree of research must from time to time be refreshed with the blood of bean counters.
     -- Alan Kay
New "squat" - rofl
-drl
Expand Edited by deSitter Feb. 12, 2004, 10:54:41 AM EST
New Diddley that! :)
Alex

The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled. -- Plutarch
     How closely do Python concepts map to Smalltalk ones? - (deSitter) - (15)
         Somewhat. -NT - (admin) - (12)
             Care to elaborate? -NT - (deSitter) - (11)
                 Easier for you to just experiment. - (admin) - (10)
                     Some Differences - (JimWeirich) - (9)
                         very useful - (deSitter) - (8)
                             Biggest issue you will have: - (admin) - (7)
                                 Re: Biggest issue you will have: - (deSitter) - (6)
                                     Stored procs run in the Postgres process - (admin) - (5)
                                         OK - (deSitter) - (4)
                                             You'll want to look at this at least: - (admin)
                                             Look here - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                 "squat" - rofl -NT - (deSitter) - (1)
                                                     Diddley that! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         I don't know enough about python to answer -NT - (tuberculosis)
         Learn some Python then find a Smalltalk/Python usenet war ;) -NT - (FuManChu)

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