Post #139,420
2/2/04 7:50:45 PM
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Kerry bought and paid for by Red China?
1. [link|http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4121890/|The money trail]
Excerpt:
Feb. 9 issue - John Kerry needed cash, and soon. In July 1996 the Massachusetts senator was locked in a tough re-election fight, so he was more than happy to help when he heard that a generous potential contributor wanted to visit his Capitol Hill office. The donor was Johnny Chung, a glad-handing Taiwanese-American entrepreneur. Chung brought along some friends, including a Hong Kong businesswoman named Liu Chaoying.
Told that Liu was interested in getting one of her companies listed on the U.S. Stock Exchange, Kerry's aides immediately faxed over a letter to the Securities and Exchange Commission. The next day, Liu and Chung were ushered into a private briefing with a senior SEC official. Within weeks, Chung returned the favor: On Sept. 9 he threw Kerry a fund-raiser at a Beverly Hills hotel, raking in $10,000 for the senator's re-election campaign.
2. [link|http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/1/20/131219.shtml|The quid pro quo]
Excerpt:
Kerry is also a fan of China\ufffds communist dictatorship. \ufffdOn May 19, 1994, five years after Tiananmen Square, Kerry spoke on the Senate floor against linking China's Most Favored Nation trade status to its human rights record,\ufffd Slate reported.
Kerry said: \ufffdChina is the strongest military power in Asia. We need China's cooperation. We cannot afford to adopt a cold-war kind of policy that merely excludes and pushes China away.\ufffd
Limiting China's MFN status \ufffdwould make us a bit player in a production of enormous proportions. We possess no stick, including MFN, which can force China to embrace internationally recognized human rights and freedoms.\ufffd
I say:
No, he hasn't changed a bit. No wonder the Vietnam vets still hate the bastard.
Lots of interesting stuff is gonna come out about him now that he's the front runner. Remember, Chappaquiddick didn't matter one bit until Teddy Kennedy ran for President.
---------------------------------------------------------------- DEAL WITH IT. "YAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!" - Howard Dean "How can I go to the bathroom when my people are in bondage?" - Saddam Hussein "If I may be candid for a moment, and let's see you try to stop me..." - Jay Conrad Levinson Compromise is for suckers. Seeking a middle ground is what led to 9/11. "I do not want to be admired by scumbags and liars and wife beaters. I want to be admired by good and decent, intelligent and just people, and in order to achieve this I need to do things that make me despised by their opposites." - Bill Whittle Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas? [link|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
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Post #139,421
2/2/04 7:53:15 PM
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same paymaster as bush, he gave them a spyplane
same old crap, con artists ripping off fools. Ah, hell, Catholic Church it start off that way. They All do. Jesus probably had three walnut shells one pea, then he's dead and can't be questioned, Gabriel Dupre
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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Post #139,424
2/2/04 7:56:36 PM
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GO THE FUCK AWAY (new thread)
Created as new thread #139423 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=139423|GO THE FUCK AWAY]
-drl
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Post #139,428
2/2/04 8:31:35 PM
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Dream on...
which Prescott Bush's deals all but ignored by the media, do you really think a measly $10,000 is going to raise anyone's eyebrows?
Prescott got more for being within sneezing range of George and Daddy.
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Post #139,433
2/2/04 8:44:52 PM
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dont listen to the commie
his goal is to get us used to the re-education camps being planned by his handlers. thanx, bill
same old crap, con artists ripping off fools. Ah, hell, Catholic Church it start off that way. They All do. Jesus probably had three walnut shells one pea, then he's dead and can't be questioned, Gabriel Dupre
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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Post #139,770
2/4/04 2:41:17 PM
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Hey now.
Longtime no see. Whatchya doing these days?
How was your Holiday, are your kids doing well?
Boss troubles at work?
Did you see the Superbowl? I mean Great Game for the Patriots.
I completely missed the halftime show, I channel surf during them usually.
Any idea how March Madness is gonna end up? I bet we will be surprised.
How is the weather where you are, I hope it's nice. Here it is cold and lotsa snow on the ground.
Hope your family is doing well, and your wife and parent are still getting along.
Let me know if you wanna chat!
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey
"Lately, The only thing keeping me from being a Serial Killer is my distaste for manual labor." -- Dilbert Calendar, January 4, 2004
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Post #140,012
2/5/04 1:01:38 PM
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Hey there.
I'm not blowing you off, just been really busy. I still think this site's the best, but I can't make any online group my entire life. We all have to prioritize.
I'm not gonna compromise my pseudonymity needlessly by going into my personal life. Before 9/11 it was just a game, but now I'm thinking there are some real loonies out there who will escalate verbal conflict to actual harm if they can. The exercise of free speech is always a risk, and I try to manage my risks. Of course there's no such thing as permanent anonymity, but why hasten the day?
---------------------------------------------------------------- DEAL WITH IT. "YAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!" - Howard Dean "How can I go to the bathroom when my people are in bondage?" - Saddam Hussein "If I may be candid for a moment, and let's see you try to stop me..." - Jay Conrad Levinson Compromise is for suckers. Seeking a middle ground is what led to 9/11. "I do not want to be admired by scumbags and liars and wife beaters. I want to be admired by good and decent, intelligent and just people, and in order to achieve this I need to do things that make me despised by their opposites." - Bill Whittle Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas? [link|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
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Post #140,017
2/5/04 1:16:13 PM
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Hi Marlowe! :)
I'm not gonna compromise my pseudonymity needlessly by going into my personal life. Before 9/11 it was just a game, but now I'm thinking there are some real loonies out there who will escalate verbal conflict to actual harm if they can. The exercise of free speech is always a risk, and I try to manage my risks. Of course there's no such thing as permanent anonymity, but why hasten the day? We're not really asking you to become less anonymous, Marlowe. In fact, I was just wondering some things about what you think about different issues. You seem to like to use other people's articles and essays to express yourself, and I would just like to know how YOU feel about things? For example, how do you feel about the Presidential race? Do you think anyone can beat George Bush, and who do you think is most likely to be able to do it? Nightowl >8#
"To become different from what we are, we must have some awareness of what we are." Eric Hoffer
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Post #140,026
2/5/04 1:43:30 PM
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Okay, fair point.
The reason I mostly just link to other articles is twofold: one, it amounts to footnotes citing my basis for my position. Two, in the case of links to editorials, it's more efficient than writing my own editorial. In the future, I may spell out my own positions in editorials more often. But I won't stop linking to other places on the Web to back up what I say. That's what the Web is for. It's the power of hypertext.
I tend to be brief because my spare time comes in small packages.
Kerry does have a real chance of beating Bush, but it won't be easy. Dubya's a real fighter, and he knows something about political strategy. If Bush screws up, Kerry will win, and [link|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/fhlm.html|the world will be poorer for it.] Edwards would be a bit less harmful to civilization than Kerry, but he's the long shot now.
The Democrat primary is all about beating Bush at any cost. They'll sell humanity down the river to do it. Only Lieberman was entirely above this.
It's Democrat envy against Bush determination. It's going to be interesting. Expect to learn a lot more about military records and Vietnam PoWs in the months to come.
---------------------------------------------------------------- DEAL WITH IT. "YAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!" - Howard Dean "How can I go to the bathroom when my people are in bondage?" - Saddam Hussein "If I may be candid for a moment, and let's see you try to stop me..." - Jay Conrad Levinson Compromise is for suckers. Seeking a middle ground is what led to 9/11. "I do not want to be admired by scumbags and liars and wife beaters. I want to be admired by good and decent, intelligent and just people, and in order to achieve this I need to do things that make me despised by their opposites." - Bill Whittle Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas? [link|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
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Post #140,030
2/5/04 1:49:50 PM
2/5/04 1:52:23 PM
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Hmmmm
I looked at your link, but couldn't figure out why the world would be poorer if Kerry beat Bush. Isn't anything better than letting Bush remain in office, or are we simply picking the lesser of two evils?
I understand that people, including you link to articles, I just kinda like to know a little of the person's spin on things at times, rather than just something they agree with. Makes for a more interesting discussion. But believe me, I understand about limited time also.
Just curious, which state were you from again? Were you from Boston? Has that state been through it's primary yet?
Nightowl >8#
Edit: fixed typo.
"To become different from what we are, we must have some awareness of what we are." Eric Hoffer
Edited by Nightowl
Feb. 5, 2004, 01:52:23 PM EST
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Post #140,036
2/5/04 2:00:51 PM
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different people have different reasons for Bush removal
In my case the war doesnt bother me but the Patriot act does. If he recinded that, and fired ashcroft while kicking the FBI in the ass for using that to chase criminals instead of terrorists I would probably vote for Bush. Since I think the patriot act is a direct assualt on civil rights and he loves the dam thing I want him gone. Other folks may have different reasons.
thanx, bill
I do hold an englishman's brothel is his castle , where he should behave accordingly--as many flash tails as he likes , but none of the troop fornications that the orientals and germans indulge in. Its not the indecency I mind , but the company of a lot of boozy brutes hallooing and kicking up a deuce of a row when I want to concentrate and give off my best. A regular bacchanalia is something to see right enough, but I am with the discriminating Frog who said that one is interesting, but only a cad would make a habit of it. Sir Harold Flashman esquire VC OBE
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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Post #140,078
2/5/04 4:13:22 PM
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don't feed the troll
-drl
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Post #140,083
2/5/04 4:27:05 PM
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I have a purpose. ;)
"To become different from what we are, we must have some awareness of what we are." Eric Hoffer
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Post #140,077
2/5/04 4:12:42 PM
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don't feed the troll
-drl
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