He wasn't building anything

[link|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html\n|Unless you've got a better source than Joe Wilson]

Excerpt:

Wilson's assertions -- both about what he found in Niger and what the Bush administration did with the information -- were undermined yesterday in a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee report.

The panel found that Wilson's report, rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, as he has said, bolstered the case for most intelligence analysts. And contrary to Wilson's assertions and even the government's previous statements, the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence that made its way into 16 fateful words in President Bush's January 2003 State of the Union address.

Yesterday's report said that whether Iraq sought to buy lightly enriched "yellowcake" uranium from Niger is one of the few bits of prewar intelligence that remains an open question. Much of the rest of the intelligence suggesting a buildup of weapons of mass destruction was unfounded, the report said.

The report turns a harsh spotlight on what Wilson has said about his role in gathering prewar intelligence, most pointedly by asserting that his wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, recommended him.

Post #138,304 by tuberculosis 1/28/04 11:27:45 AM Reply	He wasn't building anything that's the point. He didn't have anything you couldn't build in your garage with a copy of the Anarchists Cookbook or buy at an ARA sponsored gun show. "I believe that many of the systems we build today in Java would be better built in Smalltalk and Gemstone." -- Martin Fowler, JAOO 2003
Post #138,320 by Simon_Jester 1/28/04 12:21:39 PM Reply	But the argument was that he WAS building nuclear weapons. He had tried to buy Niger enriched uranium. He had aluminum tubes for enriching uranium. He had recent contruction at his Nuclear Research facilities. And the dreaded "Mushroom Cloud" word was used. (This is in response to Conservatives that have long argued that Bush never attempted to argue that Iraq was an "imminent threat".)
Post #138,489 by tuberculosis 1/29/04 9:13:02 AM Reply	Sure but it was false >He had tried to buy Niger enriched uranium. Shown to be false. >He had aluminum tubes for enriching uranium. You mean the rocket tubes? >He had recent contruction at his Nuclear Research facilities. Just getting started then? Don't we just bomb those when we spot them? Beware the leader who beats the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils and hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar." - Julius Caesar
Post #138,495 by a6l6e6x 1/29/04 9:33:28 AM Reply	OT: Love that sig! Alex The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled. -- Plutarch
Post #138,499 by Another Scott 1/29/04 9:46:32 AM Reply	No evidence that Caesar said that. [link\|http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-caesar-quote.htm\|Here]. Note that [link\|http://www.drudgereport.com/strei2.htm\|Streisand] used that quote and said it was from Shakespeare, but there's no evidence that he wrote it either. FWIW. Cheers, Scott.
Post #138,529 by tuberculosis 1/29/04 10:50:37 AM Reply	Yet it rings so very true Beware the leader who beats the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils and hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar." - Julius Caesar
Post #164,240 by marlowe 7/13/04 3:00:33 PM Reply	Shown not to be shown to be false. [link\|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html\n\|Unless you've got a better source than Joe Wilson] Excerpt: Wilson's assertions -- both about what he found in Niger and what the Bush administration did with the information -- were undermined yesterday in a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee report. The panel found that Wilson's report, rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, as he has said, bolstered the case for most intelligence analysts. And contrary to Wilson's assertions and even the government's previous statements, the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence that made its way into 16 fateful words in President Bush's January 2003 State of the Union address. Yesterday's report said that whether Iraq sought to buy lightly enriched "yellowcake" uranium from Niger is one of the few bits of prewar intelligence that remains an open question. Much of the rest of the intelligence suggesting a buildup of weapons of mass destruction was unfounded, the report said. The report turns a harsh spotlight on what Wilson has said about his role in gathering prewar intelligence, most pointedly by asserting that his wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, recommended him. ---------------------------------------------------------------- "All the news you wish would go away" Iraq is free, and there's nothing you can do about it. DEAL WITH IT. [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
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