You forgot the biggest ingredient

Post #137,677 by ben_tilly 1/25/04 2:26:29 PM Reply	You forgot the biggest ingredient Add overaggressive drivers who are not equipped mentally or physically to drive in snow. Mix in a city which doesn't have sufficient resources to deal with snow. I pity you. But note that the initial physical conditions would not be dangerous in a better prepared part of the country. Cheers, Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #137,678 by Nightowl 1/25/04 2:31:45 PM 1/25/04 2:32:59 PM Reply	Yep, the drivers Add overaggressive drivers who are not equipped mentally or physically to drive in snow. Mix in a city which doesn't have sufficient resources to deal with snow. I pity you. But note that the initial physical conditions would not be dangerous in a better prepared part of the country. Well they have been out all night but they couldn't start salting until the rain stopped. I don't know how equipped St. Louis is to deal with this, but we have known about it for hours and they seemed prepared to me. It's the drivers who are not slowing down and not realizing they need to, I think, that are causing the biggest headaches. I have a Dr. appt tomorrow I really need to get to, but if my car won't come out of the garage, I might not... guess we'll see. John is gonna try and salt or shovel it, but it's a sheet of ice, so it might not come up easily, if at all. And I have a rear-wheel drive car, plus have to back out, so if I can't get any traction, I don't come out of the garage! ;) Nightowl >8# Edit: changed Subject line. "To become different from what we are, we must have some awareness of what we are." Eric Hoffer Edited by Nightowl Jan. 25, 2004, 02:32:59 PM EST Expand All History
Post #137,693 by boxley 1/25/04 3:45:28 PM Reply	If you have a lot of clorox, best de-icer same old crap, con artists ripping off fools. Ah, hell, Catholic Church it start off that way. They All do. Jesus probably had three walnut shells one pea, then he's dead and can't be questioned, Gabriel Dupre questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #137,705 by Nightowl 1/25/04 5:45:28 PM Reply	Hot Chocolate Time! Nah, that's ok Boxley. John and I just finished shoveling and "salting" the driveway. The ice isn't that thick, which is lucky, and the deicer we sprinkled on it is melting it pretty fast. Of course it still might sleet a bit more tonight, but the worst is off the driveway so hopefully I can get the car out. Might "salt" again right before bed if enough stuff comes down. Anyway... it's Hot Chocolate Time!!! Ross, I hope you don't have to go anywhere in this stuff, it's treacherous to walk on, even with deicer. Nightowl >8# "To become different from what we are, we must have some awareness of what we are." Eric Hoffer
Post #137,679 by deSitter 1/25/04 2:33:30 PM Reply	Re: You forgot the biggest ingredient I don't think Evel Knievel could drive on this stuff. You can't even walk on it. We get a fair amount of snow on average so there are trucks that handle most snow situations - when the snow trucks are crashing one is advised to stay home. The worst thing of all is lots of sleet with the ground temperature well below freezing. It's like walking on marbles. -drl
Post #137,683 by ben_tilly 1/25/04 2:39:34 PM Reply	That is bad stuff - I've seen it But it was more dangerous in Victoria than New Hampshire. Better prepared local population. Better prepared city. (Incidentally not all "snow trucks" are created equal.) Cheers, Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #137,686 by deSitter 1/25/04 2:46:54 PM Reply	Re: That is bad stuff - I've seen it At my previous job we handled the plows for the MODOT trucks - these are BIG trucks with 400hp engines and 15 foot blades, and cavernous sand bins - basically a large dump truck with a massive plow. This is the slickest stuff I've ever seen. There isn't enough material to bite into, and what is there is just absolutely slick. I haven't seen a car on my street in hours. -drl

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