Better view from Islam

Post #13,761 by tuberculosis 10/17/01 12:40:13 PM 8/21/07 6:16:10 AM Reply	Better view from Islam [link\|http://www.ijtihad.org/memo.htm\|This guy] is a little more realistic and believable. We need more Muslim leaders to speak up and take back their religion. Both here and over there on their radio/tv. If it were a radical christian group, you can bet that Billy Graham, the Pope, and other respected leaders would be all over the airwaves distancing christianity from the wack jobs killing innocents in Jesus's name. The headcases are saying the Islamic equivalent of "Kill a sinner for Jesus". Why don't their leaders step up?
Post #13,765 by addison 10/17/01 12:51:19 PM Reply	Very good letter. Thanks for the link. That's incredibly good. Addison
Post #13,771 by Steve Lowe 10/17/01 1:01:57 PM Reply	Yes, quite good. Lots of stuff to remember, but I like this quote the best: Today the century old Islamic revival is in jeopardy because we have allowed insanity to prevail over our better judgment. ----- Steve
Post #13,784 by marlowe 10/17/01 1:51:37 PM Reply	Unless, of course.... imagine a scenario where the KKK has acheived such massive popularity that all other alleged forms of Christianity are marginalized or extinct. I suspect that something like this has happened to Islam, and that it happened early on. The trouble with these mad mullahs isn't that they want to turn the clock back. It's that they don't want to turn it back far enough. [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfir...e/index.html] Sometimes "tolerance" is just a word for not dealing with things.
Post #13,835 by CRConrad 10/17/01 5:33:42 PM Reply	No no, that's way wrong. Bogey: imagine a scenario where the KKK has acheived such massive popularity that all other alleged forms of Christianity are marginalized or extinct. "Imagine"?!? So you mean this hasn't happened already...? (Sorry; bad joke, I guess.) I suspect that something like this has happened to Islam, and that it happened early on. No no; from all I've read about it, it seems it truly was a tolerant and open-minded culture, once. In the days of the Caliphate of Cordoba, of Saladin, and of Harun al-Rashid's (of "1,001 Nights" fame; probably a few predecessors / successors of his, too) Caliphate in Baghdad. Basically, from the ninth to the fourteenth-fifteenth century. Perhaps even longer; lots of Europeans served, apparently not too uncomfortably, under Moslems not only in the early, but almost until the last, days of the Ottoman Empire. The trouble with these mad mullahs isn't that they want to turn the clock back. It's that they don't want to turn it back far enough. No, it's that they want to turn it back. Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
Post #13,897 by brettj 10/17/01 11:26:17 PM Reply	Thanks for the link. Although this letter seems to have an American bias it still has a point to make. Revenge is never-ending. Compassion can and will facilitate a solution to the "revenge paradigm". (that is, for those that believe in compassion)
Post #13,905 by deSitter 10/18/01 1:00:35 AM Reply	Hey Try This For Sanity [link\|http://www.jvim.com/\|http://www.jvim.com/] All religious people are dangerously insane at base.

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