hey Ash got the solution

Post #13,472 by boxley 10/15/01 10:52:10 PM Reply	hey Ash got the solution Dont normally agree with chemical weapons but we need to get Osama, clean up the Taliban and feed all those folks during what is going to be a dire winter. lysergic acid diathalidomide with a Kabul size dose, delivery method aerosol. Willing Pashtu Mullahs to preach the peacfulness of Islam and that trhe evil one Osama be turned over along with appropriate music delivered loud with dervish visions. Ask the right folks and give them all a dose of Allahs Garden. Open the airfield with a massive airlift of food, meds delivered by the red cresent. Use the time to flush out Osama using the same techniques then pack up and go home. Drop a couple of barrels on DC (note to feebs, insert comedy here)fast no lasting harm and maybe a new market for an old product. Gotta exchange something for the heroin(dea, insert comedy here) thanx, bill tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #13,503 by Ashton 10/16/01 2:15:32 AM Reply	Problem with hallucinogens is.. If your psyche is really fucked-up to begin with - seeing that starkly / abetted by new imaginations generated - might make you into more of a lunatic than before. Now maybe in a quiet tent, with appropriate dosage of MDMA and music - and a good facilitator, one might talk some of the loonies down to mere eccentricity .. and over time, they could earn a life. Sorry - too manpower intensive and: nobody gets to win anything, no trophies to bring back :[ Ashton Therapies Ltd. you addle their minds / we unscramble - union scale. but WTF: I'd go along, on just a fine Hobbit adventure -
Post #13,511 by deSitter 10/16/01 2:48:38 AM Reply	Wrong I agree with Box, what's needed is cropdusters with RoundOff, Monsantoglaxowellcomely's aerosol LSD pestislide. It doens't kill them, just makes them groovy.
Post #13,542 by gtall 10/16/01 7:37:18 AM Reply	Re: hey Ash got the solution I quite like the LSD idea. But we'd want to be sure we didn't get any of the kids on the stuff. With all the opium over there right now, how do we know this isn't their drug induced behavior we are seeing. Actually, LSD makes one hyper. It might be better if we prescribed valium for them...or cases of vitamin P. Gerard Allwein
Post #13,600 by broomberg 10/16/01 1:51:37 PM Reply	Real LSD does not make you hyper It has more a sedative effect. Many people confuse a variety of speed based hallucinagens with LSD, lumping them all under the heading of 'acid'.
Post #13,620 by gtall 10/16/01 3:40:41 PM Reply	Re: Real LSD does not make you hyper Umm...I was speaking from experience from my much younger days. It (and it was real LSD) made us very hyper. Gerard Allwein
Post #13,622 by Ashton 10/16/01 3:43:40 PM Reply	Then it wasn't from Owsley..__________[cackle]
Post #13,728 by jb4 10/17/01 9:20:57 AM Reply	...or Clearlight Labs________[oooohh] jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #13,624 by Silverlock 10/16/01 3:53:10 PM Reply	I've had both Original orange barrel. Had to split it into eighths to get single doses. No hyper effects. Later years had many different kinds that had been adulterated in one fashion or another. Usually speed. Sometimes strychnine. Mucho hyper. Don Richards, Proud recipient of the ABBA. (the Ashton Brown Brevity Award)
Post #13,696 by broomberg 10/16/01 10:24:14 PM Reply	Both? Not a matter of adulterated. Note: Please forgive the rampant spellos and typos to follow, I've given up on correct spelling tonight. There are many types of amphetamines that are hallucinagenic. But when they are not refridgerated, or are too old, they break down. One of the byproducts of this degradation is strychnine. When you say "both", that is the starting point. As an easily identifiable starting point, think about psilocybin mushrooms. Very mellow, great visuals, very short lived. Peak in 45 minutes, down in 2 hours. Not cost effective unless you grow your own. A counterpoint to that would be peyote cactus, which has mescaline, which is very speedy, and tastes AWFUL (heavy duty alkaloid). Lasts about 8-14 hours, but peaks very slowly. Some people THINK they've had mescaline, in the form of "microdots". Didn't happen. Mescaline needs at least 300MG to have any effect, so microdots are far too small. Another very mellow (and LEGAL) hallucinagen is hawiian baby wood rose seeds. When I go back to drugs in 27 years, I'm going to be living on those. This has lysergic pre-cursors, so it is effectively legal LSD. When using them, they have a natural coating of poison on them to keep the birds from eating them, so they need to have the outside lightly burned off. Also, they are tough to digest, so they need to be ground very well or will cause a painful stomache ache. Then we have the large variety of manufactured acid, speed acid, etc. Next to impossible to determine what they actually are. Packaging means nothing. I've had "window pane", "blotter", "sugar cubes" and "micro-dot". It seems that "blotter" was typically speedy, while the others "mellow", so I assume the others were more likely to be real LSD, but there is no way for me to know. They all caused trips lasting between 8 and 14 hours, black basketballs, trails, synthesathia, variety of visuals. They all triggered immediate tolerance, causing me to need to double dose if I wanted to trip in the same week. As I'm sure you can tell, I miss acid, and look forward to my old age when I will start doing it again.
Post #13,723 by gtall 10/17/01 7:32:29 AM Reply	Re: Both? As I'm sure you can tell, I miss acid, and look forward to my old age when I will start doing it again. I hear ya, but I do not intend to return to my youth when I'm old. There's simply no telling what is in the stuff now unless you make your own. Gerard Allwein
Post #13,727 by jb4 10/17/01 9:19:48 AM Reply	Depends on what it was cut with/caried on Most LSD from the early seventies was painted onto a whitecross or some such "carrier". You were hyper because of the speed chaser. jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #13,569 by Brandioch 10/16/01 10:58:43 AM Reply	Military grade Chemical agent BZ areosol dispersion. US doctrine states that we will never be the first to use chemical weapons. I don't think we have any BZ munitions left, anyway. Unreliable and unpredictable.
Post #13,572 by marlowe 10/16/01 11:11:14 AM Reply	How about Ecstasy? That'll make them mellow and giggly. It'll also make them stupid, but they're already stupid. Then you can preach peace to them, and they'll nod their heads and say "groovy, man." Be careful, though. A subject of a fraudulent mystical experience gets seriously pissed when he finds out he's been had. That's what pushed Sir Francis Dashwood over the edge. [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfir...e/index.html] Sometimes "tolerance" is just a word for not dealing with things.
Post #13,597 by boxley 10/16/01 1:42:44 PM Reply	nope ectasy has too much methamphetamine clinical lsd is very smooth, no speed added, no hyperactivity involved, just all synapses sparking all the time. thanx, bill tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #13,612 by Ashton 10/16/01 2:50:34 PM Reply	Derivative perhaps.. But ecstasy (un messed-with) is nothing like speed - notwithstanding legions of hyper-kiddies misusing it in quantity, quality and nature: while thrashing around and losing track of anything but drums. That behavior is not 'induced' by MDMA. I suppose the trend to be a mere manufestation of 'short attention span' - superseding all other qualities; possibly from fear of a sustained period of quietness in the culture? Some indeed fear silence - not to even mention solitude. I can testify from experience, with known pure substance - that a rave is not anything to do with what MDMA 'does' - as to what it might be (best used) for? That's another discussion. A.
Post #13,583 by mmoffitt 10/16/01 11:54:49 AM Reply	NO! VIAGRA! They'll be too busy ..., er, well you know, to do anything else.
Post #13,585 by Andrew Grygus 10/16/01 12:19:42 PM Reply	Wouldn't the U.N. file charges gainst us us . . . . for material contribution to the abuse and misuse of young boys? [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #13,703 by mmoffitt 10/16/01 11:03:10 PM Reply	Not boys, Sheep. If we give them enough ;-)
Post #13,712 by tablizer 10/17/01 12:11:20 AM Reply	Then 3rd world will chew us out for cruelty to camels Plus, one of the hybrid offspring may live, and the next generation would then have to deal with "Camelkazi's" "One hump or two? Kaboom!" ________________ oop.ismad.com
Post #13,750 by marlowe 10/17/01 11:49:31 AM Reply	They've already got sheep. Big ones. [link\|http://www.nationalreview.com/weekend/outdoors/outdoors-swan101301.shtml\|Check it out] Give the viagra to the male sheep and set them loose in the bunkers. [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfir...e/index.html] Sometimes "tolerance" is just a word for not dealing with things.
Post #13,770 by tuberculosis 10/17/01 12:58:29 PM 8/21/07 6:17:02 AM Reply	Yeah, thats a good idea - NOT That can only lead to a lot more of them down the line.
Post #13,778 by Andrew Grygus 10/17/01 1:29:30 PM Reply	Not a problem All their caves have "No Slimey Girlz" signs at the door. Young boys may get stretched out a bit, but they don't generally produce offspring. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #13,605 by ben_tilly 10/16/01 2:13:20 PM Reply	Um, have you thought about the top export of Afghanistan? These guys are experts in handling drugs... Cheers, Ben

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