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I only trained them on programming skills, not on how to deal with other people. I shared my knowledge of programming, the rest was up to them. Maybe it was my fault that I didn't train them to work as team players?

I did not teach them how to be competitive, I taught them how to work better with the languages involved.

There were programmers that worked with me, I felt I could accomplish anything with them. It was like a team, we integrated our programs to work with each other. We both benefited from each other. Those were the salad days before management encourged others to be competitive and ruined things.



"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

New See??? - You___Aren't___Crazy__[.]
- - - merely (and sadly, often lugubriously) disappointed.

Having come from a different milieu, I can say -
I understand that. The trick is to not take the failings of dozens (or even millions) personally. It is your past and current folly: to do exactly that. Ross is correct, even if his style grates on you (since you perceive the New idea as Hostile: and it is! .. but only to your faux-'personality').

Yes, it seems... "reasonable" (that people *ought* to behave in this way) - but only via the silly standards of Right/Wrong you were taught as a child. If you cannot reinvent 'yourself': No One can do this for you, for reasons so basic as to be inexpressible. If you wish sincerely to reach adulthood some day:

Believe NOTHING of what you have been taught! Yes: NOTHING.
It is all.. conventional euphemism (the deeply ingrained habit of the society you find yourself surrounded-by!), a mindset passed on by the fearful ---> so as to create supportive New fearful-ones. "Treating fear" has recently become, even - an entire fre$h Pharm-chem Industry!

(Fact: There_really_is_Nothing_to be_afraid_of.)
Fear itself (except in certain necessarily visceral situations re physical survival == walking along the edge of a cliff, say) is always a symptom of not yet knowing What you are, never mind 'who'. Word, that...

All the rest is fake emotional fear. And the Larger-trick is to finally realize that, *all* emotional-fear is internally imagined, then reinforced by the prevailing bafflegab we call psychology; lately reinforced by a plethora of Designer Drugs, modelled upon the fictional Soma of Brave New World -- and overtly advertised! on that same Tee Vee:

even for those who experience er "shyness at parties", and the like: you can now bugger your 'doctor' to prescribe a brilliant New Drug, to go with your present soup. Just watch your Tee Vee Ads: you will see. Don't believe anything someone just "says"! (including me)

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Yes, you are quite Correct: a culture which emphasized cooperation would *indeed be* a vastly more mature one than the present callow, juvenile one we both sort-of inhabit. I confirm your observation FWIW (not much) - you have to discriminate All By Yourself. And that is something you have, thus far - little experience in relying upon - the trusting of your own perceptions.

Maturity will arrive: when you see the same contradictions, wish it were 'different' {sigh} -- yet also see "the world" as: working Exactly as "a world of duality In All Things": Would/Should DOES 'Work' !!
It could not be any different than the Way It Is. <<<





No. Don't reply: not until you have tried-out ditching much of the habit-baggage you carry with you in all situations (and actually Like..) and - have something New to say.

As in: later.

And if none of this makes the slightest sense to you - leave it for what you call the unconscious to either sort out, or dismiss. That's something I can't 'do' for you (either). If there's a third option, it is: never mind.



Luck.

PS - don't even think about 'links'
     Microsoft's Ballmer is an idiot - (lincoln) - (40)
         News at 11. -NT - (imric) - (2)
             s/News/Film/ -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 Yeah, yeah. Yer right. -NT - (imric)
         He might be an idiot, - (Arkadiy) - (34)
             Sure won't help the job 'shortage' that forces 'offshoreing' - (imric)
             Neither does "managing" an illegal monopoly - (jb4)
             Would you go to college - (lincoln) - (31)
                 It depends - (orion)
                 My salary has a ceiling: - (Arkadiy) - (29)
                     Re: 9-5; it applies to juat about everyone - (hnick)
                     %-age is on the high side - glad we're both in it though ;-) -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                         ...and every kid is above average :) -NT - (Arkadiy)
                     Re: 2). - (mmoffitt) - (19)
                         I certainly sympathize with that attitude - (Andrew Grygus)
                         I can only offer my condolences. -NT - (Arkadiy) - (15)
                             Ditto, from here. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
                             If you disagree with MikeM's thesis, then it seems... - (CRConrad) - (13)
                                 I don't have to do someting I hate every day - (Arkadiy) - (12)
                                     I used to love programming - (deSitter) - (3)
                                         Me too - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                             Start a business! - (deSitter) - (1)
                                                 Re: Start a business! - (jb4)
                                     I love what I do - (orion) - (7)
                                         Re: I love what I do - (deSitter) - (6)
                                             Not what I said at all - (orion) - (5)
                                                 An old lesson - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                                                     This is true - (orion) - (3)
                                                         Hmmm. - (Silverlock) - (2)
                                                             Taken out of context - (orion) - (1)
                                                                 See??? - You___Aren't___Crazy__[.] - (Ashton)
                         Computers mimic reality - (FuManChu) - (1)
                             I guess you're right - (Arkadiy)
                     so the other 99.5% - (lincoln) - (3)
                         Who says that 99.5% are entitled - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                             Everyone is entitled - (lincoln) - (1)
                                 Why do you keep talking about hard ceiling? - (Arkadiy)
                     My salary also has a ceiling: $35K :) -NT - (FuManChu) - (1)
                         My salary ceiling was featured in "Twister" -NT - (deSitter)
         Knew that a long time ago - (lister) - (1)
             Somewhere I think I saved that clip of the Bally Dance.. - (Ashton)

Money.
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