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Post #132,816
by deSitter
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12/30/03 2:52:08 PM
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New Re: That's a universal religious problem
Isn't the Protestant/Catholic schism more a matter of politics? The Pope inherited the Emperor's political status, and many were not happy with that in the northern lands.
-drl
Post #132,818
by ChrisR
12/30/03 2:57:15 PM
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New Yes and no
Politics was a definite cause of the schism, in that Rome was both a religious and poltical force. Many of the German lords didn't like cow towwing to the Roman poltical structure, so they happily accepted the reformation efforts of Luther.

Although pride would prevent it, most Catholic theologians would have to admit that Luther spoke the truth about the Church. Unfortunately, the response of the CC at the time was the Counter-Reformation which was the worst response imaginable (and the doctrine of infallibility was a direct result of this time period).
     Need a clarification on the point of Catholic doctrine - (Arkadiy) - (28) - Dec. 30, 2003, 02:26:51 PM EST
         Or, as the ancient Egyptians sang to Pharaoh . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 30, 2003, 01:47:30 PM EST
         Not as I recall - (hnick) - Dec. 30, 2003, 01:55:34 PM EST
         More proper term: "Vicar of Christ" - (ChrisR) - (22) - Dec. 30, 2003, 02:08:00 PM EST
             Right, have heard same from C friends - (deSitter) - Dec. 30, 2003, 02:12:31 PM EST
             Must be an eduction failure - (Arkadiy) - (20) - Dec. 30, 2003, 02:29:33 PM EST
                 Re: Must be an eduction failure - (deSitter) - (3) - Dec. 30, 2003, 02:45:05 PM EST
                     Eucharist.. - (ChrisR) - Dec. 30, 2003, 02:52:58 PM EST
                     The pope does not seem to me to be inevitable - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Dec. 30, 2003, 06:26:47 PM EST
                         Re: The pope does not seem to me to be inevitable - (danreck) - Jan. 5, 2004, 04:46:50 PM EST
                 That's a universal religious problem - (ChrisR) - (6) - Dec. 30, 2003, 02:48:17 PM EST
                     Re: That's a universal religious problem - (deSitter) - (1) - Dec. 30, 2003, 02:52:08 PM EST
                         Yes and no - (ChrisR) - Dec. 30, 2003, 02:57:15 PM EST
                     The poltical side is also similar - (JayMehaffey) - (3) - Dec. 30, 2003, 03:02:51 PM EST
                         Re: The poltical side is also similar - (deSitter) - (2) - Dec. 30, 2003, 03:06:46 PM EST
                             Jews went thorough this long ago - (Arkadiy) - Dec. 30, 2003, 05:50:31 PM EST
                             Probably happened multiple times - (JayMehaffey) - Dec. 30, 2003, 06:35:06 PM EST
                 Well he could have taken other courses of action - (orion) - (8) - Dec. 30, 2003, 03:20:30 PM EST
                     Stay out of it, OK? (new thread) - (deSitter) - Dec. 30, 2003, 03:22:08 PM EST
                     You don't become atheist for "benefits" - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Dec. 30, 2003, 06:33:23 PM EST
                         While I respect your beliefs - (orion) - (5) - Dec. 30, 2003, 07:55:25 PM EST
                             Then don't accept them - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Dec. 30, 2003, 09:01:08 PM EST
                                 Something interesting for you... - (danreck) - (3) - Jan. 6, 2004, 12:03:53 PM EST
                                     There is a reason that I do not call myself an agnostic - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Jan. 6, 2004, 02:12:44 PM EST
                                         Thanks for the clarification - (danreck) - (1) - Jan. 6, 2004, 04:28:08 PM EST
                                             What a Horrifying thought! - (Ashton) - Jan. 7, 2004, 05:22:07 AM EST
         Only when speaking ex cathedra - (Silverlock) - Dec. 30, 2003, 02:15:03 PM EST
         Ob. Sentient LRPD. - (Silverlock) - Dec. 30, 2003, 02:16:23 PM EST
         Turn to the bible - (orion) - Dec. 30, 2003, 03:34:31 PM EST

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