Never suggested pacifism (!)

Post #13,275 by Ashton 10/15/01 2:35:01 AM Reply	Never suggested pacifism (!) WTC demands some action as well as lots else. Just that: to ignore the necessity of clever rebuttal, language-tailored anti-idiot propaganda - instead concentrating mostly on mere military logistics: is, I believe, to grievously err. As to an earlier comment you made on the general lines of how (expectedly) loaded are many caricatures of the Taliban, I'd say that - even thus far - there are some rather detailed and compelling illustrations of the 'life of women' under their rule. Enough of these to corroborate.. enough (for me). We have no need to artificially demonize these admins - it comes out of their mouths on Tee Vee interview, as well as via other sources, some veiled for survival. However well or poorly we manage the propaganda war, AFAI can see, it is irrelevant What 'religion' they claim justifies their atrocious behavior: We shall owe no apologies for numbers of dead - provably administrators - of such a regime, wherever found in course of next events. Most are not even Afghani, as we have discussed here. That Hawkish enough? We could do both that AND see to the tons of food, coming in right behind the tanks - we are innovative or at least claim to be. Calling off the war to supply food - does not signify the abandonment of the fed folk to the Taliban admins, just delay. There are only weeks in which to move this food, or be blamed for causing the starvation over the winter.. (Our Propaganda for now and next! Communication.. with various as do not wish to communicate? we can tackle later) Ashton
Post #13,284 by dmarker2 10/15/01 5:55:46 AM Reply	Re: Trouble with the devil is When ya kill the 1st one, then next one often turns out to be meaner, nastier, dirtier etc: etc: Afghanistan has a queue of devils lined up to take over after Taliban. 'n before them it was the alliance, then Nazjibullah (sp) then the ruskies. (hmm they seemed nice afterall (grin)). All I ask now is that noone sends me there to supervise them after this lot go. I know where I don't belong - Cheers Doug
Post #13,415 by Ashton 10/15/01 4:44:10 PM Reply	Amen.. er salaam, effendi :-\ufffd I too possess a 'list' containing many more things as are unlikely to work, than - any imaginations of what might 'work' (for our usual definition -- instant solution to 1000 years of ingrained hostility) As a mammal ancestor observed.. never enter bear's den with honey on hands. Or perhaps, although the Earth is larger than the Moon, it is farther away.. A.
Post #13,509 by deSitter 10/16/01 2:44:51 AM Reply	Your Touchy Feely Bullshit Doesn't Work Any More
Post #13,513 by Ashton 10/16/01 2:57:18 AM Reply	Obviously yours isn't working either. The trouble with imagining you've got a handle on it all - is that there's no one to go to for counselling, since no one could be as wise as thee. Best find one ready & able to tell you to go fuck yourself; if too nice - you won't hear anything. A. That's your last freebie for prof. advice this quarter.
Post #13,516 by deSitter 10/16/01 3:04:48 AM Reply	Hey, ..at least my experience is honest. Is yours?
Post #13,536 by Ashton 10/16/01 4:13:44 AM Reply	Heh.. are you asking me to say, "Look.. I'm Honest!" ? Tell me what's wrong with that sentence, smartass. A. (And the experience of every bigot and fanatic is also 'honestly theirs')
Post #13,579 by marlowe 10/16/01 11:45:48 AM Reply	Hey, I'm honest. Honest I am. Have you ever seen me suck up to anyone? [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfir...e/index.html] Sometimes "tolerance" is just a word for not dealing with things.
Post #13,560 by bepatient 10/16/01 10:11:30 AM Reply	Nah... ...his experience is all a lie. Mine too. We're just deluded. Thats cool, though...since we're deluded...we muddle about in complete ignorant bliss of our delusion. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #13,615 by Ashton 10/16/01 3:11:32 PM Reply	But.. my delusions are nicer than your delusions_________:-\ufffd
Post #13,617 by bepatient 10/16/01 3:21:58 PM Reply	Natch ;) You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]

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