Right or wrong...

Post #130,749 by bepatient 12/14/03 9:25:49 PM Reply	Right or wrong... ...is a political issue. You disagree with the political aspects of the issue. Patting the heads of "our boys" is something that should be done. They deserve it. Its a distinction that is important. Having our boys come back to a post-vietnam style welcome would be a travesry that need not be repeated in our history. They didn't choose the mission...they fulfilled it...at great risk to themselves. They deserve that pat on the back. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} It goes in, it must come out._{Teslacle's Deviant to Fudd's Law} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #130,750 by deSitter 12/14/03 9:28:10 PM Reply	Re: Right or wrong... The military is not automatically right. It is right insofar as it is used in a just cause with the wide support of civilized nations, and in accord with both precedent and principle. -drl
Post #130,751 by bepatient 12/14/03 9:30:57 PM Reply	As a defined term.. ...I'll agree with your statement. I will not agree to smite the soldier for doing his sworn duty. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} It goes in, it must come out._{Teslacle's Deviant to Fudd's Law} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #130,759 by Nightowl 12/14/03 9:55:22 PM Reply	And I say.... AMEN to that. If soldiers aren't made to feel proud of what they do to protect us, and aren't treated well when they return and given the honor and respect they deserve, how can we ever expect more people to want to be soldiers in the first place? Every soldier over there has been doing his duty to protect the US and that all by itself deserves our thanks and admiration. Nightowl >8# "The difference between being immature and child-like is that one is what you are, and one is what you choose to be." Comment by Nightowl {O,O}
Post #130,764 by boxley 12/14/03 10:00:21 PM Reply	That is part of the problem If soldiers aren't made to feel proud of what they do to protect us, and aren't treated well when they return and given the honor and respect they deserve, how can we ever expect more people to want to be soldiers in the first place? is the entire problem with our foreign policy. I would much rather have a force composed of citizenry that were drafted, dont want to be there and are pissed about it. It would make the pol's much less likely to use the armed forces as pawns. When you have a core of highly trained career soldiers directing the great unwashed, their deployment becomes a last resort, not the first. thanx, bill stick a spork in it. questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #130,767 by deSitter 12/14/03 10:03:44 PM Reply	Re: That is part of the problem I couldn't have said it better and won't try. -drl
Post #130,773 by Nightowl 12/14/03 10:11:02 PM Reply	Re: That is part of the problem Well, I'm sorry you feel that way, but myself, I would much rather have a group of people who WANT to be there and WANT to fight for their country. If there were people there who didn't want to be, I'd be more worried about them deserting or doing other things to not do their best to do their jobs. Nightowl >8# "The difference between being immature and child-like is that one is what you are, and one is what you choose to be." Comment by Nightowl {O,O}
Post #130,779 by boxley 12/14/03 10:19:37 PM Reply	I see you dont understand democracy or history or freedom If an army consists of citizen soldiers then the army will only be used to defend ourselves. A professionally staffed army is mercenary in nature and over time is staffed and run by people inimical to the freedoms of the average citizen. A quick referal to a book the rise and fall of the roman empire will indicate when a vital early rome that required all citizens to fight abdicated that to mercenary armies they collapsed into decay as the mercenaries were not loathe to attack the citizenry. Go back to sleep. thanx, bill stick a spork in it. questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

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