Saddam started wars all over the place? What you smoking?

Post #130,312 by boxley 12/11/03 12:27:12 PM Reply	Saddam started wars all over the place? What you smoking? Kuwait was/is a babylonian province for about the last 6 thousand years until 1945 or so. Saddam was entitled to require Kuwait to return. He invaded Iran at the request of the United States. Those were the only two wars he started. Yes, security over freedom is certainly communist. Stat Uber Alles This system is good with checks, balances and a constitution with the bill of rights. However the executive arm of the federal government of this administration is declaring the bill of rights to be void because of terrorism, then readily admits to using these usurpations to attack non terrorist targets . The current administration is attempting to turn our constitution into meaningless pap just like the one the USSR had. Every step is to make the state, not the individual formost and selling the federal estate's powers to the highest bidder. Just like Brechnev's apparatchiks did in the seventies. The people in charge of this Rove, Wolfowitz etc do not deny that they were communists at one time. I simply assert that the past tense doesnt apply as their actions speak loudly as to their aims. The tenets of the Communist International are what they are bringing into being here in america. thanx, bill "We must face the fact that there is not a single country in the world that measures up to the lofty moral and social standards that are the hallmark of the U.S.A.: even Canada is delinquent and deserves a whiff of grape. There is not a single country in the world which, like the U.S., reeks of democracy and "human rights," and is free of crime and murder and hate thoughts and undemocratic deeds\ufffd. And so, since no other countries shape up to U.S. standards, \ufffd I make a Modest Proposal for the only possible consistent and coherent foreign policy: the U.S. must, very soon, Invade the Entire World!" Murray N. Rothbard questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #130,466 by marlowe 12/12/03 11:37:08 AM Reply	You channeling Noam Chomsky? Don't you think you're perhaps distorting the picture a wee bit? What's Babylonian province got to do with anything? And what of the Kurds and swamp Arabs? They don't count? Hey, I was a peacenik once, a very long time ago. And even now, I advocate world peace - by the means of universal republican democracy, with American hegemony as a means toward that. So does that make me a smelly sandal-wearing hippie? Would I like to buy the world a Coke? Take the treacle and the saccharine out of humanist idealism, add some common sense, and I'm what you get. First, try beathing into a paper bag. And then go through your list of grievances against the current administration, one by one. Cross off every one where the evidence is... shall we say... open to interpretation. Then cross off every one where previous adminstrations of the other party have attempted the same, or worse. Let me know if there's anything left. And then let me know if anyone ever got away with any items on your list. Only Lincoln and FDR even came close to turning our Constitution into meaningless pap. They both had emergencies to deal with. The emergencies ended, and the Constitution survived. There is absolutely nothing novel about anything you're hyperventilating over. It happens all the time. Constantly. Always has, always will, under either party. And our democracy survives. The pendulum of power swings, but it never breaks loose from the fulcrum. The system works. It defends itself. Get a grip, man. You're sounding like a PKD novel. Ferris Fremont is a Red! ([link\|http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/dialogue/hayward.html\|And he was, sort of. But in the end it didn't much matter.]) ---------------------------------------------------------------- DEAL WITH IT. "If I may be candid for a moment, and let's see you try to stop me..." - Jay Conrad Levinson Compromise is for suckers. Seeking a middle ground is what led to 9/11. "I do not want to be admired by scumbags and liars and wife beaters. I want to be admired by good and decent, intelligent and just people, and in order to achieve this I need to do things that make me despised by their opposites." - Bill Whittle Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas? [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
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